Matt and Dana Harvey (Home of the Harveys) join us for round three, and this time they're bringing news: after six years of full-time content creation, they've both stepped into full-time ministry — Dana as Director of Accounting and Matt as Senior Director of Digital Discipleship.

We talk about what it actually looks like to say yes to God when it doesn't make sense on paper. Dana walks us through the dinner conversation that started it all, a persistent pastor who wouldn't take no for an answer, and a late-night read through the book of Haggai that convicted her to stop building her own kingdom. Matt shares how a five-year-old call to ministry finally caught up with him — and why he believes God was still sanctifying him in the waiting.

We get into control as an idol, the difference between working for a church and serving one, why fasting is the clearest way to hear God's voice, and how they're still running their platform — because obedience isn't always about leaving something behind, it's about having the capacity to hold both.

This one's for anyone sitting in a season of transition, waiting on confirmation, or wrestling with a call that doesn't line up with the logistics.

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Our final thoughts on this saga we are going through and answering a question sent in by a listener.

We're back — and we have a lot to say. Year four of marriage brought us some of the best moments we've shared together, and honestly, the hardest. In this episode, we're finally opening up about something we've kept close: after three years of trying to conceive, we traveled to Greece to do IVF — and it didn't work. We're not sharing this from the other side of healing. We're sharing it from the middle of it. We talk about the word God gave Jess years before we even started trying, the peace we felt going in, and the very specific kind of grief that comes when God says not yet — especially when you emptied your savings account and flew across the world believing He would. We get into the wrestling — with doubt, with prayer, with showing up to church when you don't want to, with singing worship songs you don't fully mean right now. We talk about Abraham, Lazarus, Romans 4, and what it actually looks like to hope when hope feels pointless. And we close on where we're landing as we step into year five: grateful, locked in, and choosing to live fully in the right now. If you're waiting on something — a baby, a breakthrough, an answer — this one's for you.