In this raw and redemptive conversation, Rev. Molly Baskette, pastor and author, shares her own “shit pile” moment: guiding her church through a painful conflict over affordable housing after a devastating fire—while enduring profound personal loss. This episode is a powerful reminder that transformation often begins in the mess—that healing, humility, and meaning are cultivated not in our triumphs, but in our willingness to be undone.

✨ For Molly’s full story of becoming a psychedelic chaplain, listen to her complete interview on A Life Worth Working.

Dana and Michelle sit down with Rev. Molly Baskette, co-senior minister of the First Congregational Church of Berkeley and author of five books. After nearly 30 years in ministry, Molly found herself called into a surprising second act—as a psychedelic chaplain.

She shares how she discovered “a new kind of medicine,” and now helps people heal and grow through guided psychedelic sessions. Molly walks us through the process of legal ketamine-assisted therapy—how it works, what it feels like, and why the real magic happens during integration, when people learn to harvest the insights and emotions from their experience and reconnect with their own inner healing intelligence.

For anyone seeking healing, meaning, or a renewed sense of purpose, this episode offers a powerful look at how ancient practices and modern medicine are reshaping what it means to live—and work—with authenticity and liberation.

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