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Navigators of Dune

Lu par : Scott Brick
Série : Dune Saga, Volume 6, Schools of Dune, Volume 3
Durée : 18 h et 6 min
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Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson's Navigators of Dune is the climactic finale of the Great Schools of Dune trilogy, set 10,000 years before Frank Herbert's classic Dune.

The story line tells the origins of the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood and its breeding program, the human-computer Mentats, and the Navigators (the Spacing Guild), as well as a crucial battle for the future of the human race, in which reason faces off against fanaticism. These events have far-reaching consequences that will set the stage for Dune, millennia later.

©2016 Herbert Properties LLC (P)2016 Macmillan Audio

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  • Global
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  • Charles
  • 16/09/2016

Amazing conclusion to the Great Schools of Dune

Where does Navigators of Dune rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?

Navigators of Dune was one of my top audiobook experiences, partly because this book is an amazing conclusion to the previous two books (Sisterhood of Dune and Mentats of Dune) and partly because I waited so long after multiple cliffhangers and so many storyline threads left unknown until this book! I finished Navigators of Dune which is 18 hours long in less than two days. The way Brian and Kevin wrote this story was masterful and I'm thankful to them for not leaving this trilogy within Dune unwritten!

What does Scott Brick bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

Scott Brick did a wonderful narration as always, he really brings out the depth of character - of the characters through his voice. Thank you Scott!

Any additional comments?

Some may be put off by reading prequels in general because it's history but even knowing some general things from the subsequent books, I found the prequels very suspenseful. If you've never read a book from the Dune universe, you're really missing out. Start with the first prequel Dune: The Butlerian Jihad and go in order or start with Dune itself and then read the prequels after. The Dune saga has enriched my life. Thank you Brian and Kevin for continuing where Frank left off from his vaulted notes. Thank you!

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  • Alien
  • 21/02/2017

Story is too Forced (Spoilers)

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Dune is my favorite book. The 1984 movie is my favorite movie. I have to be honest. At times, this book was actually annoying to listen to. First of all, someone please explain to me how exactly every planet in the Landsraad is irrelevant. During the machine war, all of these planets were responsible for defending themselves to a certain extent so they have their own military capabilities which makes them pretty significant. The book simply ignores them which is patently ridiculous.

Secondly, there would have been a civil war between the Butlerians and the Imperium in any alternative universe where humans are still humans. I get Manfred Tarando and the Butlerians. Salvador and Roderick, however, act in ways no real human being would ever act and this is my primary issue with the book.The book portrays House Corrino as being incredibly powerful(refer back to nonexistent Landsraad). The authors set up Venport and the Butlerians to act as a counter balance to the Corrinos, but Venport isn't actually doing anything to check the Corrinos while the Butlerians are constantly threatening the Corrinos with threats of mob violence. Meanwhile, Venport and the Butlerians are openly hostile towards each other. Gee, I wonder how the Corrinos would act in such a scenario? Apparently the authors don't realize that, 10,000 times out of 10,000, the Corrinos would ally themselves with Venport and friendly members of the Landsraad to either defang, or decapitate the Butlerians.In no realistic universe, would the Corrinos act against Venport.

Well, you might say the Corrinos are worried about the power wielded by Venport. Okay, but when the Corrinos start to act hostilely towards Venport, they're not even aware that Venport owns planetary banks and Combined Mercantile. Furthermore, the book doesn't even make mention of Salvador being worried about Venport being a threat to his power. Salvador just whines about what a pain he is for actually wanting to defend himself against the Butlerians. In fact, Salvador acts to confiscate Venport's spice production on Arrakis without even caring how Venport would react.

As far as the actual conflict goes, it's also a joke. None of the combatants has any intelligence on enemy activites whatsoever. Seriously, no one knows anything, They take their forces and blindly wade into the unknown. Umm, first of all, sans information, no one would risk so much. Second, they would have agents gathering info. In this story, however, ignorance actually drives the plot forward.In other words, the plot is non-sensical and it's purposefully non-sensical for the purpose of creating a plot. In other words, The plot is forced to the point of ludicrousness. The authors and the publisher wanted to make money, so they wrote a sub-par book that seriously needs to be re-written in order to fix the travesty that is this backstory to one of the greatest stories ever told.

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  • Reggie
  • 28/09/2016

unbalanced

unbalanced. evil too powerful. ending is very unsatisfactory. very disappointing end of this trilogy. lots of repetition explaining character history. unbelievable character's sudden conscience. weakest of all the dune books.

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  • Gregg Dieckhaus
  • 17/09/2016

I didn't want it to end...

Kevin Anderson and Brian Herbert deliver again. I hope we can see more in this early period of the dune universe

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  • Nicholas
  • 13/04/2019

tedious. i wish i'd just read the wiki.

ugh. ruined a good plot with too many perspective characters & ridiculously, tediously, repetitively overblown emotion. scott brick is excellent, but damn, it almost hurts hearing him have to lay it on so thick. i'll listen to the frank herbert books again, but not these. you could strip the trilogy to a single book if all the repetitive emotional justification was removed. i'm not stupid, or a fan of high school drama.

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  • sigurdur hannesson
  • 28/03/2019

last book

last book in the Dune series, I loved this one.. tried to listen to it slowly knowing it was the last... could not..

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  • Tony
  • 25/03/2019

TLDR: skip this book at a minimum and read the cliff notes version

I don’t normally review books but this is ridiculous. if it weren’t for the fact that I want to get to frank Herbert’s part of this universe I would already have dropped this specific book a few times.

In previous books there has been a bit much “oh look how this just happened to turn out to be FAR in someone’s favor oh how random” but in this one it reaches a whole new level that absolutely destroyed the suspension of disbelief for me


SPOILERS (but few as possible)

In this book venhold starts off as a political, financial, and military super power. then way too many things don’t work, work counter to previously established rules, or “randomly” align in just such a way as to unrealistically tear him down. Here’s a few examples when the saboteur suddenly grows a conscience and the assassination is exposed, or Norma Senva with her prescience exposing the extent of the spice stock pile for no reason, or the attack just happening to line up with the siege, then again even with prescience leaving the best place she could possibly be, or the butlarians suddenly knowing about the shield weakness when it wasn’t used against the planetary shields, the seriously badly planned ground assault..... I could go on and on. At this point with hours still left to painfully force myself through it just makes me mad that this is a part of the series.

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  • Amazon Customer
  • 12/01/2019

We need Editors of Dune

Seems like 30% of the book was repetition, the audio makes it more apparent. Its as if both authors wrote independent stories (that followed an identical outline) and folded them together without an editor. We do not need to be reminded of each character's motivations every 2 minutes, nor mini-recaps of what was just stated less than 3 minutes previously.

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  • Mat Brown
  • 09/05/2018

Put this on TV

These prequel series would make for excellent TV. A sci-fi version of Game of Thrones.

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  • HNIC
  • 31/03/2018

Another Great Dune Book

A must read for skill Dune fans. Get more insight into the great feud. the Sisterhood, and yes the Navigators.

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  • Kindle-Kunde
  • 04/07/2018

Worst book of the New trilogy

Too many plot twists caused by irrational handling of main characters to get the wanted results.

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  • LTomsik
  • 10/01/2018

way too much of ballast

all the time repeating what had happened few minutes ago. pretty boring sometimes. the story itself is engrossing, but target audience has to be pretty dumm not able to remember previous chapter