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A Clash of Kings

A Song of Ice and Fire, Book 2
Lu par : Roy Dotrice
Série : A Song of Ice and Fire, Volume 2
Durée : 37 h et 12 min
5 out of 5 stars (52 notations)

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Description

A comet the color of blood and flame cuts across the sky. And from the ancient citadel of Dragonstone to the forbidding shores of Winterfell, chaos reigns. Six factions struggle for control of a divided land and the Iron Throne of the Seven Kingdoms, preparing to stake their claims through tempest, turmoil, and war.

It is a tale in which brother plots against brother and the dead rise to walk in the night. Here a princess masquerades as an orphan boy; a knight of the mind prepares a poison for a treacherous sorceress; and wild men descend from the Mountains of the Moon to ravage the countryside. Against a backdrop of incest and fratricide, alchemy and murder, victory may go to the men and women possessed of the coldest steel...and the coldest hearts. For when kings clash, the whole land trembles.

©1999 George R.R. Martin (P)2004 Books on Tape, Inc.

Critiques

Locus Award, 1999

"A truly epic fantasy.... The novel is notable particularly for the lived-in quality of its world, created through abundant detail...for the comparatively modest role of magic...and for its magnificent action-filled climax.... [Martin] provides a banquet for fantasy lovers with large appetites." (Publishers Weekly

"Fans of epic fantasy should appreciate this lavishly detailed sequel to A Game of Thrones." (Library Journal

"Dotrice's range of vocal tones, from gravelly and commanding to silkenly dangerous, creates a mood of insistence that holds the listener captive throughout the epic story." (AudioFile

"Grabs hold and won't let go. It's brilliant." (Robert Jordan) 

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Notations

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une histoire bien rythmée lu par un très bon narrateur, je le recommande. cela a bien meublé mes trajets solitaires 😄

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awesome

great audiobook, good story, good writing, good voice acting despite some minor characters hard to understand sometimes.

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  • Theodore
  • 17/01/2012

Did not disappoint...

Roy Dotrice again, simply great at what he does....

The twists and turns in the book is simply great and I am loving how the characters are very slowly but purposely being developed. The book has three different stories running as one it seems and it weaves together very well. Just plain impressive.

Overall... Just plain epic!

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  • Benjamin
  • 06/05/2013

Great book, but bad "chapters"

Any additional comments?

The first audiobook (Game of Thrones) has chapter breaks that coincide with where they would be in the physical book. These breaks are timed out, and so happen at random points in the story. Even the four "parts" of the book break mid-chapter.

It would be a better listening experience if the breaks happened at an appropriate chapter break.

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  • Peter
  • 02/04/2013

I'm hooked, but narration...

Would you listen to A Clash of Kings again? Why?

No. I seldom listen to books more than once.

Who was your favorite character and why?

Tyrion Lannister. Obvious underdog, bullied his whole life. He's coming up in the world and doing big things. Will he stay humble? It seems like a question Tyrion would ask himeself.
That's why I like the character so much.

Who would you have cast as narrator instead of Roy Dotrice?

Roy does 2 or 3 voices voices very well.
But! his females all sound like toothless old crones in pirate movies. Even the young beautiful ones.

The remainder of male characters sound like grumpy Leprechauns. I'm not joking. They really do. It's getting quite old and it's very disappointing.

That said Roy has the perfect amount of drama. His voice is excellent for reading the back story. You find yourself lost in the story till it comes time to narrate a female part. Then he snaps you out of it like being awakened from a sleep by a power saw in your bedroom.

Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

37 hours N/A.

Any additional comments?

Just finishing up book 2. Already bought book 3.
I'm excited about the series and will be more than ready to move on after book 3.
Regardless of how it leaves me hanging.

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  • Nicholas
  • 30/05/2012

Epic novel, terrible narration.

Would you try another book from George R. R. Martin and/or Roy Dotrice?

Martin is incredible. Great characters, fearless plot--no one is safe--and masterful pace/susupense.

Dotrice, on the other hand, has mastered all of maybe 3 different voices, and each of them is about as easy on your ears as broken glass mixed with sandpaper.

Would you be willing to try another one of Roy Dotrice’s performances?

I may not even listen to the rest of these novels simply BECAUSE Dotrice is involved.

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  • Nicholas
  • 13/12/2011

Prepare to work on little sleep once you start

Any additional comments?

This whole series is well worth the time and the money. Once you start its all consuming. if you dont dream about it when you finally go to sleep, then your not paying attention.

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  • Robin
  • 02/07/2013

Problematic, but good on the whole.

What did you like best about A Clash of Kings? What did you like least?

Martin's series is grand and ambitious in its scope, and that is simultaneously its blessing and its curse. The writing is strong, but the pace of the story is at once somehow quick, drawing the ear to the next page, and painfully slow. His use of different perspectives to tell the story is refreshing, but there are certain characters that it seems should be added to that list who remain absent, while some characters can grow simply tiresome at times. Nonetheless, if you're here for more of what you got in "A Game of Thrones", you'll find plenty.

That being said, Dotrice's narration is, to say the least, a mixed bag. Some characters, mainly the older male characters, are given excellent voices. Similarly, the voice he uses to narrate the general text itself is deliberate and clear. That being said, the list of characters who are nearly destroyed by his flamboyant voicing is long and unfortunate. He miserably fails at voicing literally every female character in the book, especially Brienne of Tarth and Mellisandre, and he manages to butcher most of the younger characters, including Theon Greyjoy and Bran Stark. His most distracting and consistent failures come with two of the most important characters, Tyrion Lannister (who is given to sound like a shamefully caricatured leprechaun) and Lord Varys, whose sloppy annunciation and unmstakeable lisp are a shame to Mr. Dotrice and an absolute failure to grasp the character. Also worth mention are his terrible performances as Hodor the stableboy and Yoren the black brother. With Hodor the failure is less distracting, since he only says one word anyway, but Yoren is consistently annoying and hard on the ear in every scene.

Nonetheless, the writing is strong enough that a careful listener can work around the narration. I would recommend this recording of this book, but be aware of what you're getting yourself into beforehand.

What other book might you compare A Clash of Kings to and why?

More important, I think, are the books I would not compare it to. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, Heinlein's works and essentially all other rote fantasy material is not fundamentally comparable. Often, the books read more like a novelized, fictionalized history of Scotland or England, and that's a compliment. Martin understands the kind of society he's mimicking, and as such he manages to write what is mostly a political novel with fantasy elements, rather than a fantasy novel with politics.

Would you be willing to try another one of Roy Dotrice’s performances?

I will, but *only* because his is the only available narration of these books. Otherwise, I would not be caught dead listening to another of his performances.

Did A Clash of Kings inspire you to do anything?

Keep reading the series.

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    5 out of 5 stars
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  • Arthur
  • 10/06/2005

Fantastic ongoing story from a skilled author.

George R. R. Martin continues his epic tale filled with greed, passion, intrigue, and war. If you are a veteran of A Game Of Thrones then you'll have learned to expect the unexpected; surprising plot twists and turns and a sort of literary brutality with the fates of his characters put Martin well above the fluff-writing fantasy authors infesting bookshelves today. You'll go through the full gamut of emotions before you're done and, tired and weary, you'll be left wanting more. The narration by Roy Dutrice is phenomenal--his myriad voices and accents and seasoned, gruff voice is perfect for Martin's grim, realistic writing. Now, there are many people who don't like Martin's penchant for making the "good" characters suffer for their ignorance and lack of ruthlessness. There are many people who don't like Martin's realistic take on villians and how bad people with lots of power can do really bad things. There are many people who don't like seeing the characters that they've invested their emotions in get killed or have worse happen to them (yes, worse.) If you are one of these people. then go read something else that will fill your hearts with kittens and butterflies and chocolate chip ice cream. To everyone else: Strap yourselves down because you're in for one heck of a ride.

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  • Alisha
  • 28/05/2013

Good listen, but what's up with the chapter set up

Where does A Clash of Kings rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?

I thought it was a fantastic story, and well narrated. My #1 pet peeve, which I found really irritating, was that the listening chapters didn't line up with the chapter menu on my iphone. It made it difficult to find my spot if I lost it, made it impossible to figure out how much of a chapter is left, and I couldn't check the next chapter to see who's perspective was coming next (which I like to do).

Would you listen to another book narrated by Roy Dotrice?

Yes, I'm ready for Book 3!!

Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?

I love the end, how the author positions all the characters for changes in the next book. I also love every section about Arya Stark, with her cleverness, strength, and stubborn determination.

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  • Logan
  • 23/07/2013

Bad "Chapter" Separation

Would you consider the audio edition of A Clash of Kings to be better than the print version?

Print version is better.

What three words best describe Roy Dotrice’s voice?

Most people sound like old beggars.

Any additional comments?

The first book separated the chapters into discrete segments, but this audiobook has completely arbitrary divisions. As someone who reads the print version when he can, and then goes to that spot in the audiobook during chores/driving, I find it very difficult to navigate the audiobook. Huge disappointment and annoyance. If this wasn't the case, I'd be pleased as a pickle.

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  • Caitie
  • 13/07/2013

horrid chapter breaks

Any additional comments?

I loved the story, but I switch back and forth between the audiobook and the physical book, and the chapter breaks on this audiobook version are timed roughly every 45 minutes rather than at every chapter break like in the first audiobook. This makes my switching back and forth nearly impossible and incredibly frustrating. Come on, Audible, let's get it together! It's not hard to format an audiobook intelligently and consistently with the first book in the series!

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    5 out of 5 stars
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  • teyha
  • 06/04/2011

Anspruchsvolles, vielseitiges Hörvergnügen

Nach dem ich den ersten Teil in deutsch gehört hatte, und entdeckte, dass es im englischen viel weniger Teile mit längerer Spielzeit gibt, hörte ich den ersten (längeren) Teil noch einmal in Englisch und nun gleich den zweiten englischen Teil hinterher. Inhaltlich verweise ich einfach mal auf die Zusammenfassung. Mir gefällt es, dass die Geschichte so Vielschichtig ist, und im Wechsel immer aus den verschiedenen Perspektiven erzählt wird. Die Überschrift mit dem entsprechenenden Namen macht es einfacher zu folgen. Der Sprecher bringt die Geschichte einfach klasse rüber und bringt die verschiedenen Charaktäre mit den verschiedenen Sprechweisen sehr gut rüber. Dem Englischen kann man recht gut folgen, ich muss allerdings zugeben dass ich mich schon auf die Geschichte konzentrieren muss, nicht nur wegen der englischen Sprache sondern vor allem wegen der vielschichtigen Ereignisse. Aber wer Fantasy Sagen mag, wird hier bestimmt auf sein Hörvergnügen kommen (vor allem bei den vielen Stunden für den recht kleinen Preis).

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  • Global
    5 out of 5 stars
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  • D. Binder
  • 09/10/2009

großartiges buch, großartiger sprecher

Das "Lied von Eis und Feuer" muss man Fantasy-Fans ja eigentlich nicht mehr vorstellen. Sicher keine leichte Kost, dafür aber eines der, wenn nicht sogar das beste Epos der modernen Fantasy überhaupt. Allein aufgrund der Länge aber sicher nichts für "zwischendurch"
Dazu kommt hier der fantastische Roy Dotrice als Sprecher, der den (vielen) Charakteren viel Tiefe und Ausdruckskraft verleiht.
Das englische Original ist zudem weitaus stimmiger als die deutsche Übersetzung, in der etwa viele Namen nicht übersetzt wurden ("King's Landing, Red Keep, aber auch Eigennamen).

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  • Christina
  • 22/12/2013

großartiger Erzähler, schlechte Formatierung

Nachdem ich die Bücher gelesen hatte, wollte ich die Geschichte gleich noch einmal erleben und habe mir die Hörbücher gekauft. Ein großartiger Erzähler, der die Geschichte und die verschiedenen Figuren leben lässt! Uneingeschränkt empfehlenswert! Leider wurde aber irgendwo ein bisschen gespart, denn die Formatierung ist furchtbar. Die Perspektiven wechseln nicht kapitelweise, sondern mittendrin.

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  • Global
    4 out of 5 stars
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  • Dülp
  • 31/08/2012

Gut, aber auf englisch schwierig

Wer Teil 1 gut findet, macht hier sicher nichts falsch. Allerdings rate ich von der englischen Fassung ab, wenn man der Sprache nicht wirklich sehr gut folgen kann. Ich höre häufig us-amerikanische Podcasts oder andere englische Hörbücher ohne Probleme. Aber hier habe ich in einigen Kapiteln nur die Hälfte verstanden. Der Sprecher liest sehr farbig und leiht dabei manchen Rollen derbe Akzente oder Sprachfehler wie Nuscheln oder Näseln. Dazu kommen zahlreiche Begriffe, die man vielleicht als erfahrener Rollenspieler kennt. Aber ein normaler Mensch kennt die englischen Bezeichnungen z.B. für diverse mittelalterliche Waffen wohl eher nicht. Ich bin jedenfalls nach einem Viertel wieder auf die deutsche Fassung umgestiegen, auch wenn sie das vierfache kostet.

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  • Global
    3 out of 5 stars
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  • matraque
  • 29/08/2009

Nur für Wiederholungstäter

Für diejenigen die "A Game of Thrones" nicht kennen, sei empfohlen mit jenem ersten Band des "Song of Ice and Fire" starten, da dessen Handlung nicht zu Beginn zusammengefasst wird und dessen Charaktere nur in geringem Umfang neu eingeführt werden.
Trotz der wechselnden Erzählperspektive bezieht der Autor doch deutlicher als im ersten Teil Position, die Lannisters sind böse, brutal und gerissen; die Starks sind die ehrenhaften Guten.
Die Geschichte startet jedoch zunächst mit einer Seite des Kampfes über die Vorherschafft über die sieben Königreiche, die in Band eins nur am Rande erwähnt wurde und die in diesem Buch einen guten Teil der Handlung einnimmt.
So kommt es, dass der Höhrer 7 Stunden darauf warten muss, was im Süden außerhalb der Königreiche geschieht, was nach Buch 1 von der Fantasyseite her der vielversprechendste Handlungsfaden war (Drachen!).
Auch dauert es lange (ca. 9h) bis die Geschichte zum ersten Mal richtig actionreich in Fahrt kommt. Wer es geschafft hat solange durchzuhalten, wird kurz darauf mit neuen Facetten des Intrigenspiels hinter den Kulissen belohnt und auch die übrigen Handlungsfäden erfahren endlich lang erwarteten Schwung.
Bei allem Respekt vor den Welterschaffungskünsten von Herrn Martin, nehmen die vielen Handlungsfäden der Gesamtgeschichte doch gelegentlich die Spannung und das Ende des Buches ist noch deutlicher als nach Teil 1 nur das Ende eines Abschnitts, der zwar Interesse auf mehr macht, aber doch wieder neuerliche Längen befürchten lässt, zumal wichtige Personen weiterhin Kinder im Alter zwischen 8 und 16 Jahren sind.
Diese Englische Fassung ist wie auch schon Teil eins von Roy Dotrice gut vertändlich vorgetragen.

Fazit: Das Mittelalterepos mit Fantasyelementen geht mit einigen Längen weiter, macht aber letztenendes Spaß und Lust auf mehr.

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  • Pascal
  • 10/06/2019

Just amazing

I was introduced to the a song of ice and fire world by the TV show GoT. I thought the show was great but i never expected such amazing books.

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  • Maciej Niemczyk
  • 27/04/2019

Old english - but the speaker is great

It needed quite a while to get familiar with that kind of english (I‘m not native) but I must admit that the speaker did a great job!

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  • Amazon Kunde
  • 07/03/2018

Not the greatest reading.. But great writing

Roy Dotrice seems to lack a variety different voices for characters. Also, his interpretation of some of the characters is very shallow, as if he hadn't really read the books, nor understood the plot and their personalities and roles in the story . Too bad there's no other english version available here in Germany :((

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  • Bryan Morse
  • 10/01/2017

MASTERFULLY READ

Roy Dotrice is so entertaining the characters all have different voices and it is the same guy. Most excellent production! The story is very good as we all know!

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  • Beate
  • 07/10/2016

a brilliant story vividly told by roy dotrice

a brilliant story vividly told by roy dotrice who is an actor indeed. i enjoyed the book!