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Optophobia is the fear of opening one’s eyes. Our show is dedicated to encouraging you — our listeners — to move beyond that fear. To solve riddles they don’t want us to unriddle. To investigate supposedly ironclad truths. To unearth evidence, buried for so long they believed it would stay buried. Each season we tackle a new investigation into what is often dismissively called a “conspiracy theory,” and each week a new guest weighs in. Are you bored by the lies? Open your eyes.

In 2018, archeology students from the Antiquities Institute at the University of Tehran excavating a cave system near Mt. Ararat in eastern Turkey uncovered 26 large ancient ceramic vases. Inside were reels of 5,000 year old audio tape—a clear and complete recording of Noah and his wife Naamah interviewing thousands of pairs of animals aboard the ark. In partnership with the Antiquities Institute at the University of Tehran, we have digitized a selection of those interviews and now present them publicly for the first time in this historic podcast.