Sgt. EL and I became friends after we learned we both have many things in common, i.e., in addition to believing in second chances for people who deserve a second chance, we both sufffer from a plethora of mental health issues. Unfortunately, he has been recieving backlash from his place of employment, the Department of Corrections, which also has a large sign out front that states they do "not discriminate." Sgt. EL is starting his own podcast and I support him. NOTE: This conversation has STRONG LANGUAGE and TALKS OF SUICIDE.

Some of my friends and I have opted to go to solitary confinement to get away from the reality that we belong to. After a few days, you begin to hallucinate, after a month you may not want to leave, This isn't the case for everyone. Some can't hadle it and eventually lose their minds completely. This is my 2nd conversation with Pat while he was in the Hole and he gets out soon. He is no stranger to solitary. His sister joins us for the first few minuets.

When COVID 19 hit, we were given the option to take a vaccine shot or solitary confinement. The next day we learned that they recalled the shot we took. The administration came to answer out shouts and insured us that though we took the recalled vaccine, we were fine. They even tried to get us to sign a waver. Since then, several of us have fell victim to a kidney disease - me included. I was fortunate to recieve treatment out here. My friend Jay was transferred to another prison and while there, though the guards were plotting. It's happened before, so he was prepared this time, and the prison had to shut down in order to extract him. Also, My niece, Seren, who is 4 years old, joins us in the first few minuets because I was babysitting. Enjoy