Water to Wine is the final episode of Wine & Hip Hop in 2025—and a reflection on everything this year has been about: community, leadership, and surviving the times together.

In this closing conversation, Jermaine Stone sits down with Shaun J. Lee, the seventh pastor of Mount Lebanon Baptist Church in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn. For well over a century, Mount Lebanon Baptist Church has stood as a historic anchor in the Black community in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn—a place of gathering, organizing, protection, and continuity when resources were limited and the future uncertain.

The conversation lives at the intersection of church and hip hop, examining how both have historically functioned as survival languages—spaces where people tell the truth, process hardship, and find ways to keep going. Pastor Lee and Jermaine talk about community leadership, responsibility, and what it means to hold people together during challenging times.

As the year comes to a close, Water to Wine isn’t about spectacle—it’s about endurance. About how communities survive through culture, mentorship, presence, and shared space.

This episode is the bow on a year dedicated to building community.

In this episode of Wine & Hip Hop, host Jermaine “Showtime” Stone—aka The Wolf of Wine—sits down with legendary DJ, creative strategist, and cultural thinker Mick for a layered, unfiltered conversation about music, wine, creativity, and longevity.

Mick reflects on his journey from the golden era of mixtapes to becoming a respected speaker, investor, and cultural voice, sharing hard-earned lessons on creative evolution, entrepreneurship, timing, and building a sustainable career without losing the soul of the craft. Jermaine draws sharp parallels between Burgundy and Oregon, mixtapes and winemaking, pressure and diamonds, showing how true artistry matures when ego steps aside and intention leads.

The episode unfolds over a guided tasting of Abbott Claim Winery wines from Oregon’s Willamette Valley, with insight from acclaimed French winemaker Alban de Bouville, whose Burgundian philosophy has helped shape Abbott Claim into one of the most terroir-driven producers in the New World.

This episode explores:

• The mixtape era and how DJs built brands before social media

• Why Oregon Chardonnay mirrors Burgundy’s humility, precision, and restraint

• Terroir as a mindset—not just a wine term

• Creative patience, Plan B’s, and long-term thinking

• How great wine and great music both reward curiosity, attention, and time

This is Wine & Hip Hop at its core—where culture, conversation, and craftsmanship intersect.

In this episode of Wine & Hip Hop: Dual Citizenship, Jermaine reflects on the healing this country needs and shares his perspective on immigration not as politics, but as the story of culture, connection, and what we create when we come together. From the Caribbean migration of the 1970s to the Bronx, Jermaine explores how Jamaican traditions like toasting became the foundation for hip hop and how first-generation experiences shaped the sound of a global movement. Alongside the music, he breaks down Lambrusco—a sparkling red wine from Northern Italy—explaining its styles, flavor, and why it pairs so well with bold Jamaican dishes like jerk chicken. More than just history and wine, this episode argues that Wine & Hip Hop is more than culture—it’s a blueprint for unity, proof that when we blend differences with intention, we can save the world one pairing at a time.