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“At the beginning of everything, there has to be kindness . . . Once you start from that point, then breaking rules is different than someone who breaks rules from a self-serving viewpoint.”

— Daniele Bolelli

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Drawing inspiration from historical figures like the wild Zen master Ikkyū, Daniele shows how stories, ritual, kindness, and joy can guide us toward living a simpler and happier life, beyond dogma. We explore the tension between tradition and dogma, monotheism and animism, certainty and openness, and how these contrasting orientations shape both personal and collective consciousness.

Daniele brings these ideas to life through stories that have shaped him—from Bruce Lee to a 5,000-year-old mummified man discovered in the Alps—and shares how he curates epic tales through his podcast History on Fire to fuel his own growth and curiosity, as well as that of his listeners.

Through daily rituals, reflective practices, and following threads of meaning across stories both new and ancient, Daniele offers a wild and humble path for navigating the modern world with discernment, pleasure, and balance. This conversation invites us to reconsider spiritual orthodoxy, nurture inner freedom, and cultivate steadiness amid an uncertain and a rapidly changing world.

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“When I think about death and dying, and how I want to die, it actually brings me closer to how I want to live.”

— Jovan Sage

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We continue the conversation by asking Jovan about ancestral healing and land practices, which you can find here.

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Jovan invites us into a radical reimagining of death—not as something to resist, but as an ally to walk with. Grounded in the four foundations of her deathwork—death as teacher, letting go as art, uncertainty as the deepest lesson, and the calling as guide—she shares how these principles shape both her practice as a death midwife and her way of life.

Drawing from her experience as a queer youth organizer and in her work with breath and relational practices, Jovan weaves stories of community care, grief, and intimacy. She speaks to how queerness has radicalized her relationship with death and life, how uncertainty invites us to anchor in what matters most, and how tending to fear with tenderness can open us to deeper love.

At its core, this is a conversation about becoming more death-literate, about remembering that grief and love are kin, and about living in a way that prepares us to die with integrity, connection, and grace.

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Hearthwoven

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Tei’s Biosite

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Coyotei Counsel Website

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