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Recorded from the PHCC CONNECT show in Grand Rapids, Mich., Tim and John talk with Aaron Kilburg, Midwest Commercial Sales Manager at NIBCO, Eric and Aviva Maxon, President and Apprentice (at the time of recording) of Steward's Plumbing, Albuquerque, NM, and Jeff and Janice Voss, President & Secretary at Jeff's Plumbing & Repair, Inc., Boone, N.C., about industry stuff.

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