Can someone actually be called to be a social media influencer? And what if your calling doesn’t fit neatly inside a church building, even though you feel like it should? In this episode, Jessica sits down with Kadi Cole, a seasoned leadership coach and ministry leader with experience spanning both church and secular spaces. Together, they challenge the assumption that ministry only happens on a stage or behind a pulpit. Spoiler, it doesn't! They explore whether social media influence can be a legitimate expression of calling, how to prepare your heart before a platform grows, and why understanding the difference between primary calling and secondary calling reshapes how leaders show up online. Kadi also speaks into the often-hard waiting seasons…when God has called you, but the clarity, role, or next step hasn’t yet been revealed. This episode is for Christ followers who feel a pull toward ministry and “influence” whatever form that may take. AND want to pursue it with integrity, humility, and deep dependence on God.

Follow along with Kadi! Instagram: @KadiCole @Femalechurchleaders To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on:

Instagram: @upsidedowninfluencer TikTok: @upsidedowninfluencer Facebook

To reach out to us: upsidedowninfluencer@gmail.com

How do you know if the Holy Spirit is prompting you to post… or if it’s just you? Or what about when something online just seems a littleee off, but you're not sure why? How do we discern these things? In this episode, Jessica talks with Dr. Adam Flynt about discernment in the digital age. How do we hear God’s voice clearly, filter what we consume online, and steward social media as a mission field. If you want to grow in sensitivity to the Spirit, avoid confusing conviction with comparison, and learn how to be an upside-down influencer in a noisy online world, this episode is for you.

Together, they discuss:

• How to discern between the Holy Spirit’s prompting and our own emotions when we feel “led to post” or “called to do something”
• Biblical ways to test what we share and what we consume online
• Why believers may feel convicted about different things and how to avoid confusing conviction with comparison
• How to grow sensitivity to the Spirit’s voice and learn His tone
• What it would look like to view social media as a mission field
• How everyday Christians can live as digital missionaries

Whether you’ve ever wondered “Should I post this?”, felt a quiet check in your spirit scrolling online, or want to steward your influence faithfully, this conversation will help you slow down, listen, and lead with wisdom.

Follow along with Dr.Adam Instagram: @adamsflynt You can also check out the Church of Eleven22's online sermons to hear some of Dr. Flynt's messages.

To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on:

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To reach out to us: upsidedowninfluencer@gmail.com

Is it ever worth “cheating the system” to gain followers or influence as a Christ follower, even if it works? Even if it leads to growth, opportunity, or money? In this episode, Jessica sits down with Evan Werthman, the creator behind Snaxsonville, to unpack the tension believers face in the online space. As Evan has experienced real success on social media, he’s seen the good, the bad, and the ugly of “influencing.” He has had to wrestle with if certain things are just a part of playing the “game” or if he even wants to be a part of the game at all. Together, they discuss what sets Christ followers apart, the subtle compromises that can creep in if you’re not careful, and why doing things God’s way is always better.

Follow along with Evan: Instagram: @Snaxsonville TikTok: @Snaxsonville YouTube:@Snaxsonville

To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on:

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To reach out to us: upsidedowninfluencer@gmail.com

Christmas is meant to feel joyful. Yet for so many people, the holidays tend to magnify what they’re already carrying … (grief, loneliness, comparison, disappointment, even pressure to perform online.) In the middle of social media’s highlight reels, it can feel like you're the only one struggling. In today’s episode, Jessica invites licensed family + marriage therapist Rebecca Maxwell from the Jesus and Your Mental Health podcast and Pastor Jonathan Vinke from The Church of Eleven22 into a raw and hope-filled conversation about navigating Christmas when it doesn’t feel so merry.

In this episode we cover:

• Why the holidays tend to amplify whatever we’re already feeling... - joy, grief, loneliness, stress, or unmet expectations

• How social media intensifies comparison

• Navigating Christmas when you’re grieving - whether the loss is a loved one, a relationship, a dream, or the way life used to be

• The pressure to post like everything is fine

• Setting healthy emotional + digital boundaries

• Biblical encouragement - how followers of Jesus can hold grief and hope in the same hands

If you’ve ever thought…“Everyone else’s life looks better than mine.” “I should feel joyful, but I don’t.” “Posting feels weird when I’m hurting.” This conversation will meet you right where you are.

Connect with Rebecca!

IG: @rebeccamaxinjax TikTok: @rebeccamaxinjax Youtube: ⁨@RebeccaMaxinJax⁩

Buy a copy of her book here

Her book makes a thoughtful Christmas gift for someone walking through a hard time, especially during the holidays!

You can also hear more from her on the Jesus and Your Mental Health podcast.

Connect with Pastor Jonathan by tuning into the The Jesus and Your Mental Health Podcast and Deepen with Pastor Joby Martin.

To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on:

Instagram: @upsidedowninfluencer TikTok: @upsidedowninfluencer Facebook To reach out to us: upsidedowninfluencer@gmail.com

If you’re a Christian creative, you know how easily "calling" can get tangled up with platform. In this episode, Jessica talks with Christian folk artist and songwriter Brice Davis about the tension between calling and platform and what it really means to choose faithfulness over fame in a social media society. Brice shares his journey in Christian music, how he navigates social media as an artist, and the journey to keep Jesus at the center when metrics and visibility start to define success. Jessica and Brice dive into branding, motives, humility, and how to discern when God is asking you to promote something… and when He’s asking you to stay hidden. If you’re a Christian musician, creator, or anyone wrestling with influence and identity, this conversation will encourage you to build from obedience and ultimately, root your work in the One who called you.

Connect with Brice Instagram: @bricedavismusic TikTok: @BriceDavisMusic Spotify: Brice Davis

To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on:

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In this episode, Jessica chats with Kelly Saxton about what it really looks like to navigate dating apps, long-term singleness, and faith in modern culture. What does it look like to stay faithful in your singleness in a world of swipes, situationships, and seasonal dating pressure? Kelly shares her honest experiences with online dating, how she sets boundaries that honor God, and what it means to keep hope alive when waiting feels long. Together, they unpack the tension between putting yourself out there and trusting God’s timing, how to handle “cuffing season” without compromising your values, and how to walk through comparison when everyone around you seems to be getting engaged. This episode is for the person who needs the reminder of 1. Your life isn’t over just because you’re single. And 2. Living set apart includes your online dating life.

Connect with Kelly Instagram: @Kellysaxsellsjax Her podcast Instagram: @the.morning.pour

To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on:

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Audrey may wear camo, but she is learning what it means to live anything but blended in. In this episode, Jessica sits down with Audrey Wikan - hunter, content creator, and spokeswoman for Drake Waterfowl. Together, they talk about navigating social media in the outdoor industry, Audrey’s walk with Christ, finding purpose beyond performance, and living with integrity in a world driven by image. So whether you’ve ever stepped foot in a duck blind or not, you’ll walk away challenged to stand out for Christ wherever God has placed you.

Connect with Audrey: Instagram: @audrey_wikan TikTok: @audrey.wikan Youtube: @audreywikan

To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on:

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What happens when a pastor becomes a food influencer? Jessica talks with Trey Curry (@treylovesfood) about why Christians should make the best content on the internet. As Christ followers, it’s easy to see social media as dangerous or “worldly”, but Trey reminds us, it’s a tool! The question is, who’s using it? Will we let the enemy dominate these spaces, or will we step in and create with excellence for God’s glory? Together, Jessica and Trey unpack what it means to make great content without looking like the world and how to point people to Jesus even if you’re not explicitly preaching. Can you be the best chef on the internet for God’s glory? Trey thinks, yes! They also talk about guarding your heart not judging others’ motives in the process, and the surprising ways God has used something as simple as food videos to open doors for deeper conversations. Whether you’re a creator or someone just trying to honor God online, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to bring excellence, creativity and authenticity into every space you post.

Connect with Trey: Youtube: @Treylovesfood TikTok: @Treylovesfood To get connected with other upside down influencers and follow along with us, you can find us on: Youtube: @upsidedowninfluencer Instagram: @upsidedowninfluencer TikTok: @upsidedowninfluencer Facebook To reach out to us: upsidedowninfluencer@gmail.com