Janai is away this week, so Laila is stepping into the group chat—and we're getting to know her on a much deeper level.
In this episode, Laila opens up about growing up as a Somali Muslim woman and how her culture, family, and upbringing shaped the way she views success, relationships, and herself.
As the youngest of five children, Laila talks about yearning for attention from her parents and eventually discovering one very effective way to get it: achievement.
Doing well academically became more than getting good grades. It became a way to be seen, celebrated, and affirmed—and we unpack how those childhood patterns can follow you into adulthood long after you stop needing anyone's permission.
We also talk about growing up within a community where Laila often felt aware of how she might be perceived or judged, and how that contributed to a desire for approval. What happens when being "good," successful, or respectable becomes intertwined with feeling worthy?
Then the conversation shifts to something we have in common: one of our best friends, Myka.
And we realize just how differently the two of us love the exact same person.
Laila tends to lead with softness. She considers feelings first, approaches difficult situations gently, and wants the people she loves to feel emotionally safe.
Kelsi tends to lead with directness. Logic, facts, accountability, and telling the people she loves what she believes they need to hear—even when it isn't necessarily what they want to hear.
Neither approach comes from a lack of love. They're simply two completely different expressions of it.
So we ask: What does actually showing up for your friends look like?
Is being a good friend protecting someone's feelings? Holding them accountable? Knowing when they need softness versus honesty? And how much of the way we love our friends comes from the way we learned to give and receive love growing up?
This episode is about culture, family, approval, friendship, and understanding that two people can love someone just as deeply while showing that love in completely different ways.
Enjoy!
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