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UFO Talker will be available every Wednesday. It will be a mixture of discussion, interviews and people describing their sightings of unidentified flying objects. You can contact the podcast by email: ufotalker@bell.net© 2026 Michael Ryan Art
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  • The Secret Ruppelt Tape: Battelle's Hidden UFO Connection/ What was Project Stork?

    The Secret Ruppelt Tape: Battelle's Hidden UFO Connection/ What was Project Stork?
    Sep 30 2026

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    The Secret Ruppelt Tape: Battelle’s Hidden UFO Connection

    UFO Talker returns with the premiere episode of Season 5—and we are beginning the new season with one of our most revealing historical investigations.

    Michael Ryan and Christine Scott examine a remarkable recording from a confidential 1952 meeting featuring Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, the first director of the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book. Rather than hearing Ruppelt speaking for the press or writing years later for the public, we hear him discussing the UFO problem directly with a largely military audience while the investigation was still unfolding.

    The recording reveals that the Air Force had already rejected several easy explanations for the UFO phenomenon. Ruppelt discusses reliable reports that remained unexplained, concentrations of sightings near sensitive locations such as Los Alamos, White Sands and Oak Ridge, and the reluctance of airline pilots to report unusual objects because they feared ridicule or damage to their careers.

    The most important clue comes when another participant asks Ruppelt about the Air Force’s relationship with the Battelle Memorial Institute. That brief exchange leads us into the largely forgotten story of Project STORK, Battelle’s scientific and intelligence work for the Air Force, and the statistical study that eventually became Project Blue Book Special Report No. 14.

    We also investigate the mysterious role of Battelle scientist Howard C. Cross and the January 9, 1953 memorandum later found in the files of Project Blue Book consultant Dr. J. Allen Hynek. That document shows Cross making recommendations about how the Air Force should investigate unidentified aerial objects—and what Project STORK should disclose to the forthcoming CIA scientific panel.

    Was Battelle simply providing independent scientific assistance, or could its long history of classified government research have placed it much deeper inside the UFO mystery than the public realizes? There is no proof that Battelle was deliberately used to conceal UFO information, but its involvement raises important questions about private contractors, missing records and investigations conducted beyond the reach of the original Project Blue Book office.

    This Season 5 premiere also includes UFO news, Canadian civil-aviation anomaly reports from CADORS, an important announcement about UFO Talker coming to 101.3 FM CJAI Island Radio, and details about the podcast’s new every-other-Wednesday release schedule.

    The entire fifth season of UFO Talker is dedicated to the memory of Michael’s journalism professor and mentor, Frank Thayer. The episode also remembers respected Canadian UFO researcher Harry Tokarz. Read Project Blue Book Special Report No. 14 here The Anomalous Coalition is here. The Link for the UFO Experiencer meetup in Bridgewater, Nova Scotia is here.

    Listen to UFO Talker every Saturday night at 10:00 p.m. on 101.3 FM CJAI Island Radio.

    Visit: https://www.ufotalker.ca
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    Female announcer: Joy Ryan
    Male announcer: Andrew Helbig
    The National UFO Records Center link here
    Christine Scott's Centennial Books 1230 Broad Street. Regina, Sask.
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    1 h et 57 min
  • Season 5 UFO Talker Trailer

    Season 5 UFO Talker Trailer
    Sep 23 2026

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    UFO Talker Returns for Season 5

    For more than four years, UFO Talker has explored UFO reports through research, investigation, and conversations with the people closest to the stories. Michael Ryan and Christine Scott look for compelling cases that deserve a closer look, including accounts you may not have heard before.

    In Season 5, we’ll bring you more witness interviews, new guests, and the questions that keep these cases open. Join us as we follow the evidence and let the people involved tell their stories.

    Subscribe now so you won't miss a single episode.

    Support the show

    To buy UFO Talker merchandise follow this link here.
    Female announcer: Joy Ryan
    Male announcer: Andrew Helbig
    The National UFO Records Center link here
    Christine Scott's Centennial Books 1230 Broad Street. Regina, Sask.
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    1 min
  • The Forgotten UFO Investigator: William Steinman, Aztec and White Sands/ Author Frank Thayer on the Evidence and the Mystery

    The Forgotten UFO Investigator: William Steinman, Aztec and White Sands/ Author Frank Thayer on the Evidence and the Mystery
    Sep 16 2026
    Send us Fan MailTHE FORGOTTEN UFO INVESTIGATOR: WILLIAM STEINMAN, AZTEC AND THE SECRETS OF WHITE SANDSThis week’s summer rerun is a very personal episode for host Michael Ryan.Our guest is the late Dr. Frank Thayer—author, UFO researcher, professor emeritus at New Mexico State University and co-author of The Aztec UFO Incident. Long before appearing on UFO Talker, Frank was Michael’s journalism professor and mentor at Centennial College in Toronto. The lessons Frank taught him about journalism, writing and searching for the truth have remained with Michael throughout his career.Since this interview was originally recorded, Frank Thayer passed away on June 28, 2026, at the age of 86. In recognition of Frank’s lasting influence, the entire upcoming fifth season of UFO Talker will be dedicated to his memory.In this interview, Frank discusses William Steinman, the determined but largely forgotten researcher who investigated the alleged 1948 UFO recovery near Aztec, New Mexico. Steinman followed the trail left by Frank Scully’s controversial 1950 book, Behind the Flying Saucers, travelled to New Mexico and located what he believed was the Aztec recovery site.Frank describes Steinman as an intelligent, fact-based and tireless researcher who continued defending his conclusions until the end of his life. According to Frank, Steinman possessed additional information that never appeared in his published work, and his collection of research papers may have been lost following his death.The conversation also explores Steinman’s correspondence with Dr. Robert Sarbacher, including Sarbacher’s statements about scientists who may have been connected to classified UFO crash-recovery work. Frank recounts claims that Steinman was warned against publishing his research, suffered professionally after doing so and later believed he was being watched.Frank also explains why he considered the alleged Aztec recovery potentially even more significant than Roswell. Unlike the badly damaged object reportedly recovered near Roswell, the Aztec craft was said to have arrived largely intact, with 16 bodies allegedly discovered inside. Frank discusses the extensive work undertaken by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey to locate witnesses and determine how such a large craft could have been transported from the mesa to Los Alamos.The discussion then moves to the mysteries surrounding White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. Frank recounts reports of unidentified objects flying alongside experimental missiles, a landed translucent craft, automobile engines stopping beneath a hovering object, unusual V-2 missile incidents and other disturbing stories associated with the restricted military range. Some of these accounts remain unverified, but together they form a fascinating and little-known chapter of UFO history.Highlights include:William Steinman’s investigation of the alleged Aztec UFO recoveryWhy Frank Thayer believed Steinman deserved greater recognitionSteinman’s important correspondence with Dr. Robert SarbacherClaims that Steinman was warned not to publish his findingsThe possibility that Steinman’s unpublished research archive was lostWitness testimony associated with the alleged Aztec recoveryHow an intact craft could reportedly have been transported to Los AlamosUFOs allegedly observed near missiles tested at White SandsStrange aircraft and missile incidents in southern New MexicoFrank’s friendship with Stanton FriedmanFrank’s years teaching journalism at Centennial CollegeHis memories of teaching future Canadian comedy legend John CandyThe story behind the traditional journalism sign-off “30”At the conclusion of the interview, Michael explains that the number “30,” heard at the end of every UFO Talker episode, has always been a quiet tribute to Frank and everything he taught him. In traditional journalism, “30” signalled the end of a transmitted news story—confirmation that there were no additional pages to follow.Appropriately, Frank delivers the final words of this episode himself:“30. That’s a wrap.”Frank Thayer will be deeply missed, but his voice, his work and the knowledge he passed on to generations of students will continue.Visit: www.ufotalker.caEmail: ufotalker@bell.netListen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music.Keep watching the skies.From the UFO Talker Summer “Best Of” Repeat SeriesSeason 2, Episode 9Originally aired November 1, 2023Support the showTo buy UFO Talker merchandise follow this link here.Female announcer: Joy RyanMale announcer: Andrew HelbigThe National UFO Records Center link hereChristine Scott's Centennial Books 1230 Broad Street. Regina, Sask.
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    45 min
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