In the somewhat delayed (hey, we're running businesses, people!) final episode of the season, we share how in the midst of launching this podcast season, which turned out to be all about burnout, it became obvious to us both that we're a bit burnt out! We also discuss practicing discerment and finding more alignment across our businesses. Kara shares why she's re-doing her own website... again. Lauren discusses the challenges that AI is creating for copywriters and we do a whole lot of brainstorming around how we can more forward, better, in our businesses.

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This conversation spans SEO best practices, customer research, how to use your client's words to bring in more ideal clients—and how to do all of this when your business is… unusual. We also talk about narcissism in society, capitalism and business, ethical marketing vs. mainstream marketing, and the importance of community (plus using our businesses to build community). It's a RICH episode (and we don't mean money).

About Megan:

Megan Caper is a medical intuitive, energy healer, and the co-host of the podcast: How to be a Terrible Daughter. She's been in business for more than 20 years, both in person and online. She has graduate level training in anatomy, physiology, neurology, biochemistry, genetics, psychology as well as training in medical intuition and energy healing. She helps her clients get the answers or help they need when they aren't getting it from their doctors. Fun fact: She used Kara's website design template and Lauren's copywriting workbooks to build her website, which is now on page 1 of Google for Medical Intuitive.

Links:

• How to be a Terrible Daughter podcast

• Megan's Website

• Megan's Instagram

• Podcast website
• Say hello: hello@truerbusinesspodcast.com
• Follow Kara & Lauren on Instagram: @karacocreative @truerwordsbylauren

Steph Williams' journey to doing the work she loves can be summed up as "from Burnout to Breakthrough." In this episode, we talk about how a slow living lifestyle translates to business, building an ideal calendar around your energy and rest needs, how to break through a "freeze" response when you have too much on your to do list, tracking energy and mood, and tips for handling overwhelm.

Bio:

Steph Williams worked in child protective services in Australia for 14 years, a field with incredibly high burnout rates. The high-stress work took its toll and she knew she needed a shift. So she left her job, slowed down—way down—and paired down her life to a cottage by the beach. And that is where she created her business: The Rested Woman. Now she helps overwhelmed women to rest and reevaluate how they're spending their energy so they can get clear on what matters and get out of burnout for good. You can find her online and on instagram at StephWilliams.co.

Links:

How We Feel App

Steph's Instagram

Katie Oglesby is a Wisconsin-based garden designer and garden and healthy lifestyle coach committed to helping people develop a deeper connection to their food through the transformative experience of organic gardening. She is the founder of the Kitchen Garden Design House, a Wisconsin-based business that specializes in crafting bespoke kitchen gardens that seamlessly blend elevated aesthetics with sustainable, garden-to-table living practices. Katie also runs the Garden-to-Table Community, an online membership for new gardeners all learning to support their health and family's well-being with their own gardens and garden-to-table recipes.

Key points! "Gardeners have a growth mindset"

• Making big pivots in your first year of business (the thing you thought you were going to do to what you actually do)

• From health coaching to garden design and garden coaching

• The power of word of mouth marketing in a community based business

• Working a day job to support the growth of your dream job, and then transitioning between full time to part time, to full time in your new business

• Building your portfolio from the ground up (professional photography, and get some people in those pictures!)

• Cultivating your community by not just offering a product or service, but support to help your people succeed with your products and/or services (like The Garden to Table Membership)

Links:

Get Katie's free MicroGreens Guide and her How to Grow Herbs + Greens guide at https://www.katieoglesby.com/education

Katie's website

Podcast website
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In this episode, Kara and Lauren take a deep dive into the marketing strategies they used to build their own online businesses, and also discuss the things they've seen their most successful clients do well.

If you're looking to build up a client based without relying on socail media marketing, spending a ton of ads or generally feeling like you're floundering trying to do all of the things, then this episode is for you!

Inside:

• How to build a referral network
• A genius blog-linking strategy
• Leveraging your lead magnets for list growth
• Finding the people you ACTUALLY want to work with

Podcast website
Say hello: hello@truerbusinesspodcast.com
Follow Kara & Lauren on Instagram: @karacocreative @truerwordsbylauren

Today we're speaking with anticapitalist business strategist Maggie Gentry on how to market your business in ways that work for you (i.e. not just social media), her non-traditional approach to niching, and building a business with radical generosity. We also talk about human design, and how we're all manifesting generators and what that means in terms of building offers for our businesses, and how to market what you do when the Thing You Call Yourself is vague AF (ie. "thought partner").

About Maggie:

Maggie is a thought partner and anticapitalist business strategist whose focus is constructing real, humane, and deeply human systems based on your wants, needs, and heart-based beliefs. As co-founder of Rest Day Creative, she lets loving curiosity lead the way, inviting you back to the core of your values in order to create systems of change with the truth-findings you uncover there.

When she's not co-conspiring with you, she's losing count of how many floofs she's booped on her cat Waffles, bonus-momming it up with her partner's 10-year-old kiddo, and relishing in her second chance at love and life partnership in Austin, TX.

Links:

Maggie's Website
Rest Day Creative Website
Virtual Office Hours
Pay-What-You're-Able Shift Session
Lindsay Mack's Tarot Course
Chani Nicholas' 2025 Astro Planner

Podcast website
Say hello: hello@truerbusinesspodcast.com
Follow Kara & Lauren on Instagram: @karacocreative @truerwordsbylauren

This episode is about pivoting your business when you're experiencing a Big Life Shift. We talk with branding expert Jessie May Kezele of The Daring Fempreneur about her journey from the business persona she thought she should have, to growing into a business that feels completely true to her. We also share how, for each of us, burnout led to what we were meant to do, and revealed what we needed to leave behind. And you'll learn about brand archetypes, what they are, and why the wrong ones can exhaust you—while the right ones lead to a business that feels easeful and fun.

About Jessie May:

Jessie May is a Brand Strategist who helps purpose-driven entrepreneurs build brands that aren't just seen, but deeply felt. Blending her background in psychology, communications, and Co-Active coaching, she guides entrepreneurs to uncover their brand archetypes so they can step into their next stage of growth with more income, visibility, impact — and so much more ease.

From her home base in Boulder, Colorado, where she lives with her husband Robert and their bulldog Ruby, Jessie May has helped hundreds of coaches, healers, and entrepreneurs align their brands with their values, vision and voice since 2011. As an Explorer and Creator archetype herself, she has a natural gift for helping you build a brand that supports the unique vision you hold for your life and illuminating your gifts so everyone can see them, including you! Find Jessie May at TheDaringFempreneur.com

Links:

Can your brand archetypes change over time?
https://www.thedaringfempreneur.com/blog/can-your-brand-archetypes-change-over-time

You are not your brand
https://www.thedaringfempreneur.com/blog/you-are-not-your-brand

Brand Archetype Quiz:
https://www.thedaringfempreneur.com/brand-personality-quiz

Podcast website
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Follow Kara & Lauren on Instagram: @karacocreative @truerwordsbylauren

Today we're speaking with Stephanie Wasylyk, ADHD-friendly business coach, about planning an ideal calendar, holding boundaries, and giving yourself permission to do less.

Key takeaways:

• Identifying the things that need to come off your plate
• How to set up your schedule for success
• The recipe for healing burnout

What it's all about: Get on top of your schedule, create supportive (never confining) structures, and find ways make enough money without feeling inauthentic, overwhelmed, or exhausted.

About Stephanie:

Stephanie Wasylyk is a business coach helping entrepreneurs to bring focus, organization, and alignment to the creative chaos. Since 2012, she has supported thousands of clients to embrace their nature (ADHD? Rebel? Multipassionate? Radically authentic?) and build businesses around their strengths, not a one-size-fits-all formula. She is the founder of The Happy Squirrel Collective, an ADHD-friendly community for business owners who struggle with neurotypical productivity advice, like "just do one thing until it's done." She lives in Quebec, Canada with her high school sweetheart-turned spouse, daughter, and fluffy brown dog.

Links:

Stephanie's website: https://stephaniewasylyk.com/
Blog posts referenced in the show:
Why It Took Me So Long to Reach 100K and How I Did It
I Schedule Stuff in My Calendar and I Don't Stick to It - Help!

Podcast website
Say hello: hello@truerbusinesspodcast.com
Follow Kara & Lauren on Instagram: @karacocreative @truerwordsbylauren