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In this live episode from the AFP Annual Conference in Boston, host Ernie Humphrey sits down with Anders Meinert Jørgensen, CEO of Avallone and a long-time banking and compliance leader. Together, they dive into the realities of KYC, the evolving expectations of banks and corporates, counterparty risk, fraud, sanctions, AI-driven automation, and why KYC has become the biggest driver of dissatisfaction in corporate banking. True to the show’s format, Anders also faces a mix of “truth” and “dare” challenges, including an unforgettable George Clooney story and two improvised songs from Ernie.

Anders Meinert Jørgensen spent over 21 years in banking, including senior roles in compliance across major institutions, before co-founding Avallone, a platform built to remove the operational pain of KYC for corporates and banks. His work focuses on simplifying and accelerating KYC, improving data quality, and driving collaborative bank-corporate relationships.

• Why KYC has become the #1 source of corporate banking dissatisfaction
• How evolving regulations, sanctions, and geopolitics drive counterparty due diligence
• How banks are shifting from siloed KYC approaches to data reuse and collaboration
• Why companies must treat KYC as part of strategic risk management
• How AI is transforming KYC through automation, questionnaire responses, and workflow relief

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [01:55] - Anders’ Background in Banking and Compliance
• [03:04] - What Treasury Professionals Are Most Passionate About
• [05:45] - Internal Buy-In: Making KYC Matter to CFOs and Leadership
• [09:18] - Anders’ Embarrassing George Clooney Moment
• [10:07] - Dare: Ernie Sings “Sweet Caroline” (KYC Remix)
• [12:31] - How Client Conversations Have Shifted from 2023
• [13:57] - The “Low-Hanging Fruit” in Fixing KYC Processes
• [16:09] - Inspiration for “Run KYC” Branding
• [16:42] - What’s Next for Avallone: AI Expansion & Bank Integrations
• [17:31] - Closing Message: Using KYC to Earn Strategic Influence

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersmeinert/?originalSubdomain=dk
• Company’s Website: https://www.avallone.io/
• Company’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/avallone-io/

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey is joined by Paul Bramwell, Enterprise Treasury Lead at Trovata. With over 35 years in the treasury space, Paul shares hard-earned insights on treasury technology, the hidden issue of “knowledge decay,” and how intuitive systems can drive strategic value. Through rounds of truth and dare, the conversation blends serious treasury talk with candid humor, including wardrobe mishaps and karaoke challenges.

Paul Bramwell is a veteran treasury leader whose experience spans corporate treasury, fintech, consulting, and product development. He’s worked at industry giants like SunGard, EY, and Kyriba, and now leads enterprise treasury efforts at Trovata. Known for his tech-forward mindset and passion for helping teams unlock the full potential of their systems, Paul brings decades of knowledge and a healthy dose of personality to every conversation.

Expect to Learn

• Why most companies only use 20% of their treasury systems, and how to change that
• What separates Trovata from traditional TMS providers
• How training, curiosity, and user experience drive better tech ROI
• The power of networking in a tightly connected treasury world
• Paul’s “three wishes” to modernize the industry, from API standards to blockchain payments

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [01:47] - Paul’s background at Treasury
• [03:50] - Why Paul Joined Trovata
• [07:01] - Treasury Passion and Focus areas for Growth
• [11:24] - Embarrassing Treasury Career Moments
• [13:30] - Dare for the Host
• [14:36] - Networking and Career Growth
• [19:50] - Paul’s 3 Wishes for Treasury
• [22:17] - Final Thoughts and Upcoming Events

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-bramwell/
• Company’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/trovata-io/
• Company’s Website: https://trovata.io/
• Company’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/trovataio/
• Company’s X: https://x.com/trovata_io

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey is joined by Leonardo Gil, VP of Product at Bottomline. They explore the evolving role of treasury professionals, innovations in cash forecasting, and the strategic importance of visibility, technology, and collaboration. Through a fun round of “Truth or Dare”, Leonardo shares his insights on modern treasury tools, organizational leadership, and even his favorite guilty pleasure film.

Leonardo Gil leads innovation in treasury and payment solutions. With experience across global markets and a customer-centric approach to product design, Leonardo’s work aims to simplify and empower treasury teams with smarter, scalable tools.

• How to simplify treasury operations using AI and intuitive UX
• The strategic role of treasury in enterprise risk and investment planning
• Common myths about treasury that limit professional appeal
• Why forecasting remains treasury’s biggest opportunity
• A candid look at leadership, learning from mistakes, and... The Godfather: Part II

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps:

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [01:43] - Meet the Guest: Leonardo Gil
• [02:31] - What drives Leonardo’s passion
• [03:59] - Inspiration behind the Bottomline
• [07:03] - Least Favorite Part of the Job
• [08:02] - Ernie’s Career Mistake in Treasury
• [11:36] - Why Treasury is exciting
• [13:23] - Leonardo’s Guilty Pleasure
• [14:54] - Treasury Myths & Strategic Influence
• [18:28] - Final Question: Treasury’s Top Challenge
• [19:58] - Closing & Learn More about Bottomline.

Follow the Guest Leonardo:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonardobgil/
• Company’s Website: https://www.bottomline.com/uk
• Company’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bottomline-payments/
• Company’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bottomlinepayments/
• Company’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bottomlinepayments/

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