In this episode of Travis Makes Friends, Travis sits down with Ancestry.com co‑founder Paul Allen and sales legend Jeremy Miner (founder of 7th Level and creator of NEPQ) for a deep dive into entrepreneurship, high‑level sales communication, AI, and the loneliness epidemic. They unpack Paul’s journey from anti‑business academic to tech founder, Jeremy’s path from broke college student to multiple 7‑figure earner, why sales is the most leverageable skill in the world, and how their new AI partnership (Soar + AskJeremy.ai) aims to scale world‑class coaching to millions of people. They also tackle social media addiction, the decline of real friendships, and what it actually takes to build a meaningful, happy life. 00:00 Socialism, sales, and why nothing gets built until something gets sold 03:02 Paul Allen’s path from academia to Ancestry.com and his first tech ventures 06:02 Skipping Harvard Business School, becoming an avid learner, and building info products 09:04 Jeremy Miner’s door to door days and why most sales training is broken 12:01 Reverse engineering resistance and the birth of NEPQ, from 6‑figure summers to 7‑figure years 15:02 Why sales and communication are the fastest way to upgrade your income and career 18:26 Entrepreneurship as a noble calling, value creation, and Paul’s AI‑driven vision for human potential 21:06 Everyone is in sales, non‑sales selling, and changing the perception of salespeople 24:23 Central planning vs markets, entrepreneurship as the real solution to big societal problems 27:09 Framing offers, the picture‑frame analogy, and why perception beats product quality 29:39 Identity framing, “people do who they believe they are,” and reshaping self‑belief 34:51 Why people want a “Jeremy in their ear” and using these tools beyond sales 37:22 Introducing Soar, CliftonStrengths, and building a global human‑potential operating system with AI 41:06 CitizenPortal.ai, AskJeremy.ai, and future portals for founders, faith, and family 45:22 The Soar x Seventh Level partnership and scaling elite sales coaching with AI 50:05 Happiness, achievement, and why relationships matter more than chasing “the pursuit of happiness” 56:24 The loneliness epidemic, social media, and raising kids in a dopamine‑driven world 1:02:15 Creative real world fixes for loneliness and better matching with AI 1:06:02 Communication, fear of judgment, and how systems shape our confidence 1:10:43 What AskJeremy.ai actually does, how to prompt it, and why tonality is the real unlock 1:15:05 DNA, Ancestry, data privacy, and the future of personalized medicine 1:17:44 Final reflections, where to find Paul and Jeremy, and Travis’ “leave every relationship better” mantra If you like this, click subscribe, like and share with a friend. Follow Travis on: Instagram: @travischappell TikTok: @traviscchappell Facebook: /traviscchappell Twitter: @traviscchappell
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Feb 2 20261 h et 18 min
50 min