What if the most productive thing you could do is get well — in every sense of the word?

In this episode of the Wholistic Productivity Podcast, host Chris LeBrun sits down with Jared Thurmon, a founder and investor building ventures at the intersection of wellness and hospitality. Jared's lifelong conviction is simple: true health is the foundation everything else is built on. And now he's building that conviction into reality — co-founding Santerra, a 320-acre luxury wellness resort in the Arizona desert designed to transform guests through physical vitality, mental clarity, and spiritual connection.

Chris and Jared dig into what it really means to be healthy, why so many of us look fine on the outside while struggling within, and how aligning what we profess with how we actually live changes everything. Jared also shares what a DNA test revealed about his drive to build — and why self-awareness might be the most underrated health tool of all.

Show Links

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Connect with Jared on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thurmon/

Follow Jared on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jaredthurmon

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
03:33 The Foundation of True Health
06:30 Aligning Beliefs with Actions
09:46 The Importance of Authentic Relationships
15:26 Navigating Loneliness in Modern Society
18:35 Faith and Business
21:11 The Drive for Innovation and Growth
21:44 The Genetics of Innovation
25:37 Transforming Legacy Institutions
27:03 Navigating Innovation in Established Organizations
29:54 The Vision Behind Santerra: A Wellness Retreat
35:24 The Role of Hospitality in Healing
37:48 Building a Business with Your Partner
40:23 The Journey to Launching Santerra
41:52 Prioritizing Health for High Achievers
45:03 Exploring Taboo Topics: The Newsletter Journey
48:47 The Questions

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Every yes you give costs something. The question is whether you're making that trade on purpose — or by accident.

In this episode of the Wholistic Productivity Podcast, Chris LeBrun unpacks why defaulting to yes is one of the quietest ways we sabotage our own goals. Drawing from his own experience teaching adjunct college courses — a commitment he loved but eventually had to walk away from — he explores what it really means to protect your time, energy, and focus with intention. Saying no isn't a closed door. It's how you keep the right doors open.

Then, Chris shares a shift in how he thinks about learning: the best investment isn't in what you need to know today — it's in what you'll need to know tomorrow. From taking a sales and marketing webinar before he even has a team, to the idea of "learning forward," this segment will challenge you to get ahead of the skills your future self is going to need.

This episode is for you if you're tired of feeling overcommitted, under-resourced, or like your goals keep getting pushed to the back burner.

🎧 Listen now and start making your yeses count.

Show Links

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Chapters

00:00 The Power of Yes and No
01:32 Teaching Future Generations
02:57 Intentional Commitment and Resource Allocation
03:57 Generosity vs. Overcommitment
04:58 The Joy of Learning
08:34 Taking Action on Learning
09:43 Conclusion

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You don't have a time problem — you have an energy problem. In this episode of the Wholistic Productivity Podcast, Chris gets personal about a brutal stretch of life (his son's ongoing health battle) and shares why no amount of time management can save you when your energy tanks are running on empty.

Then, taking inspiration from the band U2, Chris breaks down why the unglamorous "B-side tasks" — the ones that don't move the needle on your big goals — still deserve your full effort. Because nobody wants an album full of demos.

In this episode:

• Why time is fixed, but energy is the real variable
• How to manage your physical, mental, and emotional energy as three distinct tanks
• What U2's recording process teaches us about embracing the work that doesn't feel important
• Why B-side tasks are the foundation your "hits" depend on

This week's challenge: Instead of asking how do I find more time? — ask where is my energy going?

Chapters

00:00 Understanding the Energy vs. Time Dilemma
01:15 The Impact of Personal Challenges on Energy Management
02:48 Strategies for Protecting and Managing Energy
04:27 The Numbers Game in Music
06:11 B-Side Records
09:01 Embracing the B-Sides of Life

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