This week Vance sat down with Monsignor Shamleffer for a wide-ranging conversation about faith, technology, human dignity, and the challenges facing society in an age of rapid change.

They reflect on artificial intelligence, the role of work in human flourishing, and why technological progress must remain focused on serving people rather than replacing them. The conversation explores Catholic and Protestant approaches to faith, the importance of symbolism and tradition, the meaning of suffering and the vocation of the priesthood.

Along the way, Monsignor Shamleffer shares insights from decades spent in pastoral ministry and what it means to remain grounded in faith while navigating profound cultural and technological shifts.

Monsignor John B. Shamleffer is a prominent Roman Catholic priest and canon lawyer in the Archdiocese of St. Louis. He has served as the long-time pastor at Ste. Genevieve du Bois parish in Warson Woods, MO, and previously led St. Gabriel the Archangel Parish in south St. Louis

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Vance finally lands the guest he's been chasing for two years — Chris LAS, host of This Week in Bitcoin, the only podcast Vance listens to every single week. They open on an unexpected topic: Chris's fully automated chicken coop, complete with motion sensors, ammonia monitors, automated doors, egg trapdoors, and local cameras running on Frigate DVR — no cloud, no subscriptions, no Google watching your backyard. From there the conversation widens into surveillance, Flock cameras showing up in neighborhoods without public votes, and why the data being collected today may be the most dangerous in 2035 when AI is powerful enough to mine it retroactively.

The heart of the episode is Bitcoin — Chris's origin story through the 2008 financial crisis, losing what would now be generational wealth in the Mt. Gox hack, and why he stayed convicted anyway. He breaks down why Bitcoin is a money protocol the same way HTTP is a web protocol, explains the Lightning Network in plain language, and makes the case that the generational divide between boomers and millennials is really an asset-ownership divide: inflation has been great if you owned a house, catastrophic if you didn't. He also walks through his value-for-value podcast model — no advertisers, audience as the customer, splits paid automatically over Lightning — and why transparency about how much each episode earns keeps him honest and keeps the show free from capture.

The episode closes on the Clarity Act, Jamie Dimon's very loud objections to Coinbase, AI IPO mania as the biggest financial gamble of the decade, and what question to actually ask a Bitcoiner instead of "what's the price going to be?"

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