What if the smartest growth strategy is giving everything away for free? We sit down with Nathan, a 29‑year‑old founder who built Kaiko, a hospitality marketing suite, and Closer, a Sussex‑wide savings app that costs nothing for consumers or businesses. He takes us from late‑night coding in a bedroom to real traction across pubs, cafés, soft play centres, and family‑friendly spots—where a map of local offers turns a day out into real savings and support for independents.

Nathan doesn’t sugar‑coat the journey. He left a steady London salary, moved home, and survived on 16‑ to 18‑hour days of selling, setup, and shipping. We unpack the toughest bits most founders hide: failed direct debits, paying staff late, staring down bills, and pushing through doubt. Then we explore why Kaiko ditched lock‑in contracts and setup fees, how Closer earns trust with authentic content and charity work, and why a free model can still power a business ecosystem. The result? Word‑of‑mouth growth, BBC Sussex features, and recognition as one of the UK’s top tech startups—without big ad budgets or influencers.

This is a practical blueprint for building in hard times. We get candid on resilience, mental health, and finding headspace through sport. We talk authenticity in marketing, the value of raw social video over polished gloss, and the compounding power of kindness and relationships. Most of all, we focus on outcomes that matter: families saving on meals, venues seeing higher footfall, and a local economy strengthened by everyday choices.

If you’re in Sussex, grab Closer on Apple or Google and start saving. If you run an independent, list your business via the app’s More tab and go live within 48 hours. Like what we’re building here? Follow the show, share this with a friend who loves local, and leave a quick review to help more people find these unfiltered business stories.

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We speak plainly about anxiety: how it shows up in parenting, work, health scares, grief, and daily life, and how small, steady actions can loosen its hold. We share what helped us most, from mindfulness and movement to asking for help and lowering the bar for “done.”

• naming anxiety in parenting, work and creative projects
• inbox refresh loops and worst-case thinking
• making something tangible to regain control
• imposter feelings and gym nerves
• health anxiety after scare and with new parenthood
• social anxiety in public spaces and restaurants
• mindfulness as brain training, noticing thoughts
• small steps to break cycles and build momentum
• exercise, sleep, and alcohol as anxiety levers
• medical support, therapy, pharmacists and groups
• grief’s shock window and living with the afters
• empathy for crippling anxiety and open conversation

The inbox is always open, Chris, isn’t it? The inbox is always open

If you’ve got anxiety and it’s crippling you, open up, speak to someone, tell them how you’re feeling

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Chris couldn’t make it this week… so this is my first ever solo episode.

No safety net. No banter. Just me.

I talk about:

– Waking up at 5AM with anxiety and worst-case scenarios
– Doom scrolling instead of dealing with what’s actually bothering me
– The pressure of being a parent in 2026
– Making hard decisions in business
– Losing my dad and what that’s really changed in me
– Fighting the inner voice that wants comfort over growth

This one isn’t polished.
It’s honest.

If you’re a mum or dad feeling pressure, if your brain won’t switch off, or if you know you need to step up in certain areas of your life… this one’s for you.

I also mention two brilliant movements helping people talk more openly:

– MATES FACEBOOK GROUP -

– The “You Alright Mate?” Event -

If this episode hit home, share it with someone who needs to hear it.

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