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The Space In Between Podcast

The Space In Between Podcast

De : Leigh Morgan | Fresh Perspectives | Global Leader | Meaningful Conversation
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How do we lead, stay true to what matters, and make a positive difference in a world that can feel increasingly unsettled and divided? The Space In Between, hosted by Leigh Morgan, is a podcast for leaders and anyone who wants to help shape a better future. It explores how we navigate difficult challenges without losing our convictions or our humanity. Every other week, Leigh brings you engaging conversations with guests who share compelling stories, perspectives, and personal wisdom, alongside her own reflections and practical insights drawn from decades of leadership across the public and private sectors. Together, these conversations help strengthen the sense of agency — the belief that our choices and actions matter, not only in our own lives but in the teams, organizations, and communities we're part of. The space in between isn't the middle ground. It's where we learn to hold complexity, maintain our integrity, and find ways to connect across differences. Please leave a review, share with a friend or colleague, or send Leigh a note.
Follow SIB podcast on all major podcast platforms, and visit www.spacebetweenpodcast.com for detailed show notes for each episode. Follow Leigh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leigh-morgan-speaks/ Sign up for her newsletter: https://imaginal-leadership-strategies.beehiiv.com/?ref=TNiwr4XXDY&_bhlid=bf7a73b936aab597b0df9777ef50b28c5a049d32 Send in your comments and questions: "https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/contact/">https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/contact/ Leigh also advises executives and their teams on leading transformational change; learn more at www.imaginal-leadership.com© 2026 The Space In Between Podcast
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  • Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Watch Your Language
    Oct 28 2026

    It’s election season in the U.S., and the tone of many campaigns feels divisive, blame-and-shame oriented and caustic. But the words we choose matter far beyond politics. In this popular episode, first released in 2025, host Leigh Morgan explores how all-or-nothing phrases, black-and-white thinking, emotional reactivity and leadership choices are interdependent -- and what we can all do to use language that expands possibility, strengthens relationships, and allows us to hold firm convictions without fueling division.


    It turns out that our words don’t simply communicate what we think. They can actually 'physiologically' shape how we feel, respond, and whether a conversation promotes connection or, shuts it down. Leigh shares research, a personal story about confronting her own binary thinking, and practical ways to create more room for curiosity, innovation, and agency - the belief that our choices and actions matter even in polarized times.


    What the Research Tells Us


    • All-or-nothing thinking is a cognitive distortion that reduces complex situations to stark categories: good or bad, success or failure, right or wrong.
    • Rigid language can amplify emotional reactivity. Words like always, never, completely, and hopeless can intensify the emotions we are already experiencing.
    • Certainty can feel reassuring when we are anxious or unsettled, which helps explain why simplistic narratives and sweeping claims can be so compelling.
    • Political scientists Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt describe binary rhetoric, scapegoating, and negative stereotypes as tactics used by authoritarian leaders to turn complex problems into simplistic stories about who is to blame.
    • Naming emotions as precisely as possible - a practice known as affect labeling - can reduce emotional reactivity. “I feel overwhelmed” creates a different internal response than “I’m freaking out.”


    Two Simple Practices


    1. Notice and Pause: Listen for words such as always, never, everyone, no one, completely, and hopeless—in your own language and in what you hear from others.

    2. Use Fit-for-Purpose Words: Experiment with language that leaves more room for the nuance of most situations: often, sometimes, I wonder if, from my perspective, or here’s what I’m seeing.


    The words we choose can become a bridge or a barrier. Especially when trust is low and uncertainty feels overwhelming -- choosing language with greater intention is a small and meaningful way to cultivate better conversations, stronger teams, and healthier communities.


    Guess what! Our Space in Between community is growing! Please leave a review, share with a friend or colleague, and 'follow' the show on your podcast platforms.


    Watch Leigh's YouTube video about the practices: https://youtu.be/3ImQ7e6ep5s

    Detailed episode notes: http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/watch-your-language-lessons/


    Check out Leigh's leadership insights on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leigh-morgan-speaks

    Learn about her advisory services: www.imaginal-leadership.com

    Get her newsletter here: https://imaginal-leadership-strategies.beehiiv.com/



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    12 min
  • When Courage Can Save Us - with Rye Barcott
    Oct 14 2026

    What if some of the courage we need most right now isn't about standing our ground -- but knowing when to negotiate, admit we're wrong, or put the common good ahead of our own side? In a polarized culture that often rewards strident loyalty to our group and political self-protection, those choices can carry a real cost. So, what does courage actually look like—and do we have enough of it?


    In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan talks with Marine Corps veteran and New York Times bestselling author Rye Barcott, about what courage looks like inside one of the hardest environments to practice it: the highest echelons of elected office. In his new book, Courage Can Save US, Rye examines the experiences of five elected officials – five Democrats and five Republicans - to understand what enables people to take principled risks when political and personal cost are all too real.


    Rye offers a refreshing and tender perspective on what he’s learned about the nature of courage itself, and how to transcend the vexing incentives that elected leaders face – even when they aspire to do the right thing.


    Follow Leigh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leigh-morgan-speaks

    Detailed Show Notes: http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/can-courage-can-save-us/

    Rye's website & book: https://couragecansaveus.com/


    The Space In Between Community is growing! Join us and please leave a review, share the podcast, and send feedback! We love hearing from you.

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    48 min
  • Leading Across AI Fault Lines with Karen Kornbluh
    Sep 30 2026

    Artificial intelligence is advancing at dizzying speed. But the hardest questions about AI may not be technical at all. Who should decide what responsible AI looks like? Can we create meaningful AI regulation without stifling innovation? And at a moment of deep distrust in both government and Big Tech, how do leaders build the coalitions needed to move forward?


    In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh Morgan sits down with Ambassador Karen Kornbluh, Senior Advisor for Emerging Technologies at the Milken Institute, to make sense of the fault lines shaping AI policy, governance, innovation, and leadership. Their conversation moves beyond the familiar choice between “let technology run” and “regulate it before it harms us.” Instead, they explore a more demanding space in between: how thoughtful guardrails, public accountability, human agency, and innovation can coexist—and what leaders can do right now rather than waiting for perfect answers.


    In This Episode


    Karen and Leigh unpack a central tension of the AI era: we need innovation, but we also need institutions capable of protecting the public interest and earning trust. Rather than treating AI as one enormous problem, Karen argues for breaking the challenge into specific, understandable issues—from data rights and accountability to the local impact of data centers—where people can see the stakes and exercise agency.


    Their conversation also challenges the assumption that guardrails automatically suppress innovation. Thoughtful rules can shape incentives, clarify responsibility, and help leaders address risk before a crisis forces the issue.


    Practices for Leading in AI Times


    · Demand more. Ask whether technology, government, and your vendors are actually serving people, organizations, families, and communities.

    · Make it tangible. Choose one concrete AI issue rather than trying to solve “AI” as a whole. Look for a decision, cost, risk, or policy you can actually influence.

    · Meet people where they are. Use language and forums that make sense to the people you serve—not just to experts inside your institution.

    · Find your agency. Pay attention to local and organizational decisions, including data-center impacts, data use, reporting, and accountability, where your voice can affect what happens next.


    Share the podcast - help the Space In Between grow!


    Our community is growing, and so is our collective impact. Share this episode with a friend or colleague and please leave a rating and review wherever you listen—it helps others find The Space In Between.


    Check out the Space In Between website for more detailed show notes: http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/leading-across-ai-fault-lines/


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