A historic train station sits near the heart of Salt Lake City, but many riders still get dropped on the edge of downtown and told to transfer and walk through empty industrial blocks. That disconnect is at the center of our conversation with civil engineer Christian Linhart, one of the voices behind the Rio Grande Plan, a citizen-led proposal to rework how trains move through downtown and how the city welcomes people arriving by rail.

We dig into the plan’s three big moves: build a grade-separated rail corridor through downtown (supporters argue railroad crossings and fast trains do not belong in a major city center), bring service back to the Rio Grande Depot as the main downtown train station, and clear space for redevelopment by removing rail yards that currently wall off the west side. Along the way we talk about why the current setup struggles for comfort and dignity, how freight trains can snarl intersections, and how fixing the rail network could also help address Salt Lake City’s long-running East-West divide.

If you care about Salt Lake City transit, downtown redevelopment, commuter rail, or better station access, listen through to the end and get involved. Subscribe, share this with a friend who rides trains, and leave a review with your biggest question about the Rio Grande Depot and the future of rail downtown.

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