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  • Radical Compassion (Season 6 | Episode 223)
    Jan 29 2026
    Radical Compassion (Season 6 | Episode 223) with Ukumbwa Sauti Trading “Empty” for “Open”: The Courage to Speak Up Welcome back to the Open Nesters podcast, where we are flipping the script on aging and trading an “empty” nest for a life wide open. This month, we have been diving deep into the theme of courage, and I can’t think of a more vital conversation than the one I recently had with Ukumbwa Sauti. Ukumbwa is a consultant, educator, and a leader in men’s work who is helping us look at the “third act” of our lives through a lens of awareness and radical compassion. The “genesis moment” for Ukumbwa’s lifelong mission happened decades ago when he realized that nearly every woman he knew had experienced some form of sexual assault or harassment. This shocking realization led him to dedicate his life to education and media literacy, focusing on how we define “normal” behavior. In our interview, he shared a powerful story from his days teaching higher education where a simple question about consent was met with a long, chilling silence. It’s a stark reminder that we are still pushing a boulder uphill when it comes to understanding boundaries. One of the most profound concepts Ukumbwa introduced is “radical compassion”—the ability to respect the experiences of people we don’t even know. For men in the open nesting stage, this means moving beyond the excuse of “I didn’t know”. It’s about being willing to hold up a mirror to our own behaviors and the systems of patriarchy that have affected us all. As Ukumbwa noted, many women our age have reached a breaking point because their partners refused to grow and evolve alongside them. This lack of growth is a major contributor to the rising rates of “grey divorce”. It is a staggering reality that 40% of divorces now occur among those over 50, with women initiating two-thirds of these splits. Women are often simply “fed up” with partners who remain stagnant or dismissive of their need for equality and respect. Embracing open nesting means being brave enough to address these intimacy gaps and do the internal, spiritual, and emotional work required to sustain a healthy partnership. For the men listening, Ukumbwa’s message is clear: learn to listen. Whether it’s through joining a men’s group, reading works by authors like bell hooks, or simply engaging in open, heart-centered conversations with friends, the tools for growth are available. He shared a beautiful story of his own men’s group providing him with caretaking and “manicures in bed” during a hospital stay, proving that masculinity can include tenderness and mutual support. As we move into February and focus on love and relationships, I challenge you to consider your own legacy. What kind of role model are you for your adult children and grandchildren? True courage is not just about big adventures; it’s about the willingness to be conscious, to admit when we are wrong, and to speak up for equality. Let’s keep opening doors to better relationships and endless possibilities Ukumbwa Sauti Educator, Presenter, Facilitator – Cultural Media Studies; Counselor,initiated Dagara Elder Greetings! I’ve been involved in a dynamic and deepening process born out of many aspects of my professional, creative and spiritual work over many years. My company, moja mediaworks llc, has been developing the World Ancestor Concert, a 3-day televised healing concert celebrating the world’s Ancestors and traditions with a rich mix of conscious and progressive music, traditional music, activists, organizations and more. We are currently looking for sponsors and strategic partnerships to stage our main annual concert events and ongoing smaller, localized Village Concerts. We will also be developing workshops and events for colleges and their surrounding communities. Obrigada! Merci! Jerejef! Danke! Gracias! Asante! Thank you! About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure Freedom of Expression Exploration and Fun Body Movement New circles of friends Deep love relationships
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    39 min
  • Embracing the “Open” in Open Nesting
    Jan 22 2026
    Embracing the “Open” in Open Nesting (Season 6 | Episode 222) with Joy Rose (Season 6 | Episode 222) This week on the Open Nesters podcast, my co-host Amir and I had the absolute pleasure of revisiting a truly boundary-breaking conversation with the incredible Joy Rose. As an artist, activist, and the visionary founder of the Museum of Motherhood, Joy is a master at helping us deconstruct the heavy labels we carry and reclaim the narrative of our own lives. If you are currently navigating your own “Act Three,” this discussion is essential listening for finding your vitality and flipping the script on aging. We dove deep into the complex world of motherhood —to explore how this role often consumes our identity for decades. Joy shares the raw, honest truth about the “redundancy” many of us feel when our children grow older. It can be an almost impossible shift to move from the physical and emotional all-consumption of active parenting to a life where that role is no longer necessary in the same way. Joy’s personal journey is a masterclass in finding the “self” at the center of the roles projected onto us. As her own four children have grown into their late twenties and thirties, she has had to learn the difficult art of adjustment, using tools like cultivating her own passions and finding serenity through spiritual programs like Al-Anon. One of the most striking parts of our talk was Joy’s take on modern relationships and her rejection of traditional marriage. She spoke beautifully about seeking “great love”—the kind of love that pushes you out of your comfort zone and requires you to show up with integrity and consciousness. It was so illuminating to hear how she and her partner, despite being on opposite ends of the political spectrum, find deep connection through simple kindness and shared values. For those of you looking to explore these themes further, Joy is continuing her work by launching online classes through the Museum of Motherhood website. She encourages everyone, especially “women of a certain age,” to be brave, be expansive, and stop repeating patterns that no longer serve them. Whether it’s through art, study, or simply trying to live on your own, there are so many ways to “show up” for yourself in this new stage of life. We are so grateful to Joy for her wisdom and for helping us “unlabel” the judgments we often place on ourselves and others. As we move forward, I hope you’ll join us in witnessing the growth of our families and ourselves with open hearts and fewer expectations. About Martha JOY Rose Martha JOY Rose, Founder, Executive Director, BFA, MALS with a Master’s in Mother Studies. She is an award-winning artist and activist. Her pursuits have included academia, large-scale community gatherings, and she is the former lead singer of the band Housewives on Prozac. Joy is the NOW-NYC recipient of the Susan B. Anthony Award, her Mamapalooza Festival Series has been recognized as “Best in Girl-Power Events” and her music has appeared on the Billboard Top 100 Dance Charts, MTV and Good Morning America. She founded the Museum of Motherhood in 2003. In 2019, she brought MoM to St. Petersburg. Joy received her Masters in Mother Studies at CUNY, The Graduate Center in New York City and then taught for five years at Manhattan College. Her area of expertise includes introduction to the concept of Mother Studies. From pregnancy to ‘labor’ the requirements of women, physically, emotionally and spiritually are challenged and stretched, and therefore so are men’s. She examines changing perceptions of mothers through herstory. Her focus is largely centered in North America. Joy has contributed to numerous scholarly collections including The Encyclopedia of Motherhood, the Music of Motherhood (2018), and The Routledge Companion to Motherhood (2020) to name a few. She is an artist recipient of a grant from St Pete Arts Alliance & in 2023, she was certified with the Adult Mental Health First Aid, USA. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure Freedom of ...
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    37 min
  • Aging | A Practice of Possibility (S6 | E221)
    Jan 15 2026
    Aging | A Practice of Possibility (Season 6 | Episode 221) with Laura and Martha (Season 6 | Episode 221) [TESSA] In our latest episode of the Open Nesters Podcast, I had the profound pleasure of sitting down with a truly inspiring mother-daughter team, Martha and Laura. At 85 and 58 respectively, they joined me to flip the script on what it means to grow older. Instead of viewing aging through a lens of desperation or limitation, they shared how they have cultivated “possibility” as a daily practice rather than a distant fantasy. This conversation reminded me that being an “Open Nester” isn’t just about life after the kids leave; it’s about keeping our hearts and minds wide open to new adventures, regardless of the number on the calendar. One of the most striking takeaways from Martha was her “pod” concept for social wellness. She maintains distinct groups—or pods—for her various interests, ranging from watercolor painting and Torah study to tennis and book clubs. These aren’t just hobbies; they are vital lifelines that prevent the isolation so often associated with aging. Martha’s vibrancy at 85 is a testament to the fact that we must continuously invest in our social circles. As my co-host Amir noted, these relationships are essential to our survival and longevity, yet they require a conscious commitment to cultivate as our lives evolve. We also explored the concept of “resilient aging,” which requires an honest look at our changing physical rhythms. Martha and her husband, Bert, who is nearly 90, haven’t stopped doing what they love, like fishing; they have simply adapted. They’ve found guides who understand their “frailties” and allow them to start later or end earlier. This radical honesty—acknowledging that “getting old ain’t for sissies”—allows them to remain active participants in their own lives. By viewing the body not as an enemy but as a partner that requires different care, they model a graceful way to let go of old habits while welcoming new experiences. The conversation took a deeply courageous turn as we discussed the importance of transparency regarding death and dying. Laura and Martha speak comfortably about these “inevitable possibilities,” ensuring that family values—rather than fear—drive their future decisions. Laura shared her commitment to ensuring that her relationship with her brother remains “healthy and whole” after their parents are gone, which requires having these tough conversations now. This level of integrity and proactive communication is what truly defines a legacy. It’s about making the path smoother for those we love by honoring our values above our own immediate comfort. As we wrapped up, I was left reflecting on how much we can learn when we witness aging with compassion rather than judgment. Whether it is Martha learning from Laura’s modern communication style or Laura gaining a “glimpse” into her own future through her mother’s journey, the intergenerational bond is a powerful tool for growth. Aging is a process, not a destination, and it is happening every single day. I invite you to join our community on Instagram or visit our website to share how you are moving into your open nest with curiosity and courage. Until next time, remember to keep your life wide open to endless possibility. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure Freedom of Expression Exploration and Fun Body Movement New circles of friends Deep love relationships
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    53 min
  • THE RADIO VAGABOND PALLE BO
    Jan 7 2026
    THE RADIO VAGABOND (Season 6 | Episode 220) Trading Empty for Open with Palle Bo (Season 6 | Episode 220) [TESSA] Are you ready to flip the script on aging and discover a life wide open? On this episode of The Open Nesters Podcast Amir and I welcome back a true legend of the open road, Palle Bo. Palle is the definition of an “Open Nester”—someone who decided that once the kids flew the coop, it was time to open the door to endless possibilities. Known as the “Radio Vagabond,” Palle traded his secure life in Denmark for a global adventure that has taken him to over 100 countries. Whether you are dreaming of selling it all or just taking a longer vacation, his story is bound to inspire your inner nomad. You might assume that traveling the world requires a massive bank account, but Palle busts that myth right away. Back in 2016, after his youngest child moved out, he sold his house, car, and furniture to live out of a suitcase. Surprisingly, he spends about half of what he used to spend living a “normal” life in Denmark. He isn’t retired; he’s a digital nomad who runs a production company from his laptop, proving that you really can work from anywhere—whether that’s a cafe in Colombia or a road trip through Saudi Arabia. However, Palle is quick to point out that this lifestyle requires a bit of mindfulness to truly enjoy it. He talks candidly about “travel fatigue” and the importance of slowing down to “get the hunger back”. If he finds himself staring at a beautiful waterfall and not feeling the magic, he knows it’s time to check into a hostel and do absolutely nothing for a while. As Tessa notes, meaningful travel isn’t about rushing through a checklist; it’s about staying long enough that the local coffee shop guy knows your name. One of the biggest fears Open Nesters face is losing touch with their children, but Palle’s experience has been the exact opposite. He reveals that he actually speaks to his kids more now than he did when they were all living under the same roof. They think it’s pretty cool to have a dad out exploring the world, and they even plan epic meet-ups, like an upcoming road trip across the UK. It turns out that distance doesn’t have to mean disconnection; in fact, it can spark a whole new kind of adult relationship. Before you rush to pack your bags, Palle offers some honest advice: this life isn’t for everyone. If you love your own bed and the convenience of next-day Amazon deliveries, you might prefer a home base. But if you are curious, he suggests testing the waters by renting out your place for six months before burning any bridges. To hear more about his incredible journey—from Maasai villages to digital nomad conferences—be sure to check out Palle Bo’s own show, The Radio Vagabond Podcast. Safe travels! About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure Freedom of Expression Exploration and Fun Body Movement New circles of friends Deep love relationships
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    45 min
  • Courage (Season 6 | Episode 219)
    Jan 1 2026
    Courage (Season 6 | Episode 219) An Interview with Tessa & Amir (Season 6 | Episode 219) [TESSA] In this episode, we delve into the profound themes of relationships, sexuality, and spirituality as part of our exploration of how to embrace aging with vitality. As empty nesters transitioning to a phase of life filled with endless possibilities, my partner and I share our journey into being “open nesters,” a term capturing our commitment to experiences, adventure, and deeper connections rather than merely feeling the void left by our grown children. This season opener invites listeners to reflect on courage and authenticity as we move into the new year. We engage in a heartfelt conversation with our daughter, discussing the significance of courage as we navigate this stage of life. Through her perspective, we examine the nuanced understanding of what it means to be courageous—not simply in terms of risk-taking, but in fostering deeper connections within our family. Our daughter’s mention of her friends’ curiosity about our polyamorous relationship prompts us to clarify: while our experiences do involve aspects of sexuality, this discussion transcends mere lifestyle choices and invites us to probe the courage it takes to be vulnerable and authentic. 0:46 We’re not empty nesters. We’re open nesters. 11:10 What’s the value of courage and this season of your life? 21:03 Courage from Our Perspective 30:17 Hopes for the Future As we reflect on our individual journeys through different acts of our lives, we share profound insights about courage’s evolution over time—from bold moves in our youth to choosing growth and authenticity in our current stage. We unpack how the lessons learned from past decisions empower us to face our fears and embrace new challenges. This touches on the critical distinction between whimsical risk-taking and the true essence of courage: acknowledging fear and pressing forward regardless. An essential aspect of our dialogue is centered on the micro-courage found in everyday choices, alongside the grander acts that define our paths. We explore how our personal growth is mirrored in our relationships—not just with each other, but with our children and our extended families. Our commitments to communication, understanding fears, and taking calculated risks serve to reinforce the bonds that keep our family dynamic rich and supportive. Our conversation also touches upon the shadow side of courage—fear. We reflect on how we each grapple with our fears and the various methods we employ to address them. This includes using emotional awareness and communication to tackle uncertainties accompanying changes in our relationship and our lifestyle choices. An acknowledgment emerges that navigating through fear often requires the same courage we seek to showcase in our life choices, underscoring the complex interplay between vulnerability and strength. As we anticipate the opportunities and challenges of the year ahead, we recognize the importance of manifesting our dreams, both in personal goals and in creating resonance through our podcast. Our aspirations for the Open Nesters community include the development of a TV pilot that reflects our journey and the broader experiences of those embracing this stage of life. By openly sharing our trials and triumphs, we hope to inspire our audience to engage in their own acts of courage. In closing, this episode serves not only as a personal reflection but also as a collective invitation for our listeners to envision what courage looks like in their lives. We hope you resonate with our message of openness and the understanding that growth, whether through discomfort or joy, is a journey best undertaken with curiosity, compassion, and the unwavering support of those we love. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open-hearted lives. Please email Tessa to make a connection. And visit her page here on the Open Nesters Website. If you like, please answer the question: What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE… Adventure Freedom of Expression Exploration and Fun Body Movement New circles of friends Deep love relationships
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    34 min
  • Leaning in to Better Lives
    Dec 25 2025
    Leaning in to Better Lives with Alia & Hayden (Season 5 | Episode 218) [TESSA] In this compelling episode of The Open Nesters Podcast, we delve deep into personal transformation, intergenerational healing, and the evolving dynamics of relationships in adulthood with guests Alia Stewart-Silver and Hayden. Both are navigating their unique journeys while pursuing a vision centered around eco-cultural regeneration and personal development. The discussion emphasizes the concept of “open nesting,” a mindset that cherishes the numerous possibilities that come with this dynamic life stage, rather than viewing it through the lens of emptiness. Alia shares her experiences, calling in from Lake Atitlan, Guatemala, where she is building her practice as a licensed psychotherapist. She reflects on her upbringing in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia, describing a nurturing environment fostered by her parents, who consciously shielded her family from societal norms and media influence. This intentional upbringing allowed her to cultivate a deep sense of connection and love within her family, shaping her understanding of life, relationships, and ultimately, her vocation as a healer. Alia also candidly discusses the emotional turmoil that arose during her parents’ separation, illustrating how such endings can also give rise to profound insights and intergenerational healing. EPISODE TIME CODE 2:00 Meeting Alia and Hayden 12:51 Confronting Identity and Performance 18:28 Navigating Parental Relationships 25:04 The Impact of Generational Differences 36:51 Commitment to Individual Paths 39:08 Future Plans and Collaborative Projects Hayden is an experienced circle-holder and ceremonial guide. He is trained as a nature-based soul guide and permaculturalist. He is self-taught in ontological design processes, philosophy, primal movement, and evolutionary astrology. Hayden integrates these versatile modalities into his work as an evolutionary catalyst, striving to help root visionary ideas into tangible forms in service to the wellbeing of life and consciousness now and into the future. Alia tends the fertile intersection of individual healing, cultural development, and ecological stewardship. She weaves together the diverse threads of her background as a licensed therapist, restorative justice and anti-oppression cultural facilitator, permaculturalist, rites-of-passage guide, and poet. Alia has applied this breadth of experience to founding a thriving holistic therapy practice. Learn more about Alia’s work at Join the Seeds. And at Soul Rooted Healing Arts. Hayden shares his contrasting background in a more traditional American suburban setting. He recounts his upbringing in a conservative Christian home and the challenges he faced following his parents’ divorce at a young age. Through honesty and vulnerability, he discusses the pressures of adhering to societal expectations, particularly in sports, and the mental health struggles that emerged as he sought to carve his own identity amid these narratives. Both he and Alia discuss the importance of recognizing and feeling all emotions, including grief and anger, as essential components of personal growth. As the conversation unfolds, Alia and Hayden reveal how their paths converged during a ceremonial Vision Quest, a transformative experience that deepened their connection while allowing them to explore their personal journeys and collective vision for the future. Their partnership is rooted in mutual respect for each other’s individuality and a commitment to shared growth, focusing heavily on agreed-upon principles that prioritize personal sovereignty over enmeshment. Listeners gain insights into how they can foster healthier relationships with their own families and navigate the complexities of adulthood. Alia and Hayden emphasize the value of communication, mutual support, and recognizing the unique challenges faced by different generations. They encourage open dialogues around emotions and the importance of creating supportive spaces for one another to thrive. In the latter part of the episode, the couple shares their aspirations for the future, rooted in the establishment of educational centers focused on eco-cultural regeneration, where individuals can learn to live in harmony with the earth and each other. They provide listeners with resources and platforms to explore these concepts further, inviting the audience to become part of a transformative journey towards personal and collective healing. About Tessa Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters. Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program, and journey facilitator & leader, author, and, of course, Podcaster. Her offerings are based on her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the ...
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    44 min
  • Reflect and Celebrate The Open Nesters 2025 (S5 | E217)
    Dec 18 2025
    Reflect and Celebrate The Open Nesters (S5 | E217) with Tessa and Amir In this episode, we celebrate completing five seasons of The Open Nesters Podcast, a platform dedicated to redefining the empty nester experience. We take a moment to reflect on our journey and the incredible community we’ve built around the concept of “open nesting.” Instead of viewing the empty nest as a void, we embrace it as an opportunity for growth, adventure, and deeper relationships. By keeping our hearts and minds open, we invite listeners to explore the diverse possibilities that come with this stage of life. EPISODE TIME CODE 3:53 Exploring Life in Act 3 4:05 Navigating Grief and Loss 6:43 Redefining Monogamy and Relationships 9:35 The Desire for Independence 11:06 Embracing Change and Downsizing 12:52 Intergenerational Friendships 14:07 Your Voice in Our Community Throughout the episode, we share a sampler of impactful moments from previous conversations that have shaped our understanding of living fully in Act 3. Each clip highlights the multitude of experiences that encapsulate the joys, challenges, and revelations of aging. We touch on essential topics such as navigating grief, redefining relationships, and exploring facets of sexuality and vitality as we grow older. Listeners will hear insights from past guests who discuss various aspects of life in this transitional phase, including the need to shed limiting identities, navigate loss and grief successfully, and embrace the fullness of love and connection. Each snippet provides inspiration, wisdom, and encouragement, fostering a sense of community that fosters growth and openness. We emphasize the importance of sharing our stories and learning from each other’s experiences. We delve into intriguing discussions about intimacy, identity, and the courage to rewrite our life narratives. As we reflect on conversations about monogamy and the exploration of new definitions of love and sex, we encourage listeners to push boundaries and embrace their desires. We want to inspire everyone to take an active role in designing a life that resonates with their true selves, free from societal pressures and expectations. Finally, we provide a sneak peek into Season 6, where we will continue to explore these vital conversations and offer more excellent resources for building a fulfilling life in this chapter. As we close this episode, we encourage you to reach out, engage with us on social media, and join our growing community of open nesters. Your voice is essential to this journey, and we look forward to hearing your stories as we continue to grow together. Resources for You We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group ask to join and we’ll let you in
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    16 min
  • Evolution Intimacy
    Dec 10 2025
    Evolution, Intimacy (S5 | E216) with Lara and Michael Blackin [TESSA] In this episode, I sit down with Lara and Michael Blackin, visionaries behind Temple in the Trees, a vibrant new community center located in Leesburg, Virginia. We delve deep into the philosophy of open nesting—a refreshing take on the empty nester experience, inviting listeners to redefine what this life stage can mean. The Blackins embrace a mindset of unfettered growth and exploration, highlighting how their mid-life journey has been full of new relationships, passions, and adventures. Evolution, Intimacy Lara and Michael share the inspiring story of how Temple in the Trees came to fruition after a transformational tantric workshop. It began with a simple note passed between them, leading to a shared vision of a sanctuary dedicated to community and tantric learning. Over eight years, their home has blossomed into a beacon for like-minded individuals eager to explore intimacy, connection, and personal growth. We discuss the significance of community collaboration and how their authenticity has attracted a diverse network of people eager to learn, share, and grow together. EPISODE TIME CODE 1:13 Temple in the Trees 6:34 Finding Community 16:42 Navigating Estrangement 23:18 Coping with Vision Loss 28:33 Intimacy Through Challenges 31:09 Transition from Parent to Participant As we dive deeper into their personal journeys, Lara and Michael reflect on their blended family dynamics, parenting six children—from a 27-year-old to a high school senior—while navigating the complexities of sibling relationships and individual identities. They candidly address the challenges of estrangement within their family, particularly the difficult path of one of their sons who has stepped away. Through this heartfelt discussion, we explore themes of grief, acceptance, and the importance of honoring one’s personal journey while also nurturing connections. The conversation takes a poignant turn as we cover Lara’s struggles with her eyesight, a significant challenge she is currently facing due to a growth affecting her optic nerve. She eloquently describes her journey of adapting to this new reality, finding strength and creativity as she navigates what it means to experience vision—both physically and intuitively. Michael shares his perspective, discussing how their relationship has deepened through these trials and the ways their intimacy has evolved, emphasizing the power of connection beyond traditional notions of physicality. We also touch on their recent move to New Orleans, where they are in the process of establishing a new branch of their community—Temple by the Water. Amidst the logistical challenges of a cross-town life, both Lara and Michael express excitement about laying down roots in a new city while continuing to foster their expansive community spirit. Their joint ambitions to host creative events and retreats speak to their commitment to artistic expression and personal development. In wrapping up our conversation, the Blackins impart invaluable insights for listeners navigating their own life transitions. They challenge the notion of identity solely tied to parenthood, advocating instead for an embrace of individualism and active participation in life. The underlying message promotes a sense of participation and connection, encouraging everyone to cultivate relationships that nourish self, community, and family. This episode encapsulates the complex layers of transition, poignancy, and resilience that define the open nester experience. By embracing both joy and grief alike, Lara and Michael exemplify how life transitions can serve as catalysts for deeper self-discovery and collective growth. Their story is a testament to the beauty of forging meaningful connections—one that resonates deeply with anyone looking to redefine their journey in the face of change. Resources for You We want to provide you with support and many many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest: Open Nesters Resource Page The Open Nesters Private Facebook Group ask to join and we’ll let you in
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    43 min