Today’s conversation is not an easy one — and it’s not meant to be.

This episode looks at a story that includes a violent crime, an arrest, two trials with two very different outcomes, and the ripple effects that continue long after a verdict is read. In June of 2024, a shooting at Veteran’s Tavern in Pueblo, Colorado left two women injured, and took the life of 65-year-old Elaine Masias. David Frank Martinez was later arrested and ultimately convicted after a second trial, following an earlier mistrial in which a jury could not reach a unanimous decision.

We’re joined by Martinez’s daughter, who believes that conviction was wrongful. We gave her the space to share her perspective — what she saw unfold, what she feels was misunderstood, and how this experience has shaped her family’s life ever since.

Our goal here is not to retry the case, challenge the courts, or act as investigators. We’re not a courtroom, and we’re not presenting new evidence. This is a conversation. We rely on publicly reported information to outline the timeline, and we focus on the human side of a process that is often reduced to headlines, documents, and soundbites.

This episode deals with difficult subject matter and real loss. We encourage listeners to approach it with the understanding that this is one family’s perspective on events that have already been adjudicated in court, while legal processes continue to unfold.

As always, we try to ask honest questions, listen carefully, and give space to stories that are complicated, emotional, and not easily summarized.

Thank you for listening.

Cheers,

m&t

Tony bikes to work in freezing weather, finally watches Whiplash (only 11 years late), and then accidentally starts perhaps the most heated debate we’ve ever had on the podcast.

A conversation about Caleb Williams and biased commentators turns into a full-on Bears vs stats showdown, with Tony making bold claims and Mike playing contrarian—with receipts.

We’ve never argued on the pod before, and this one definitely goes longer than intended. But after some real back-and-forth, we settle down, find common ground, and finish strong—talking Cowboys future, strange NFL mascots, and the weird passion that comes with lifelong fandom.

Consider this a rare peek behind the curtain of a real friendship… heated moments and all.

Cheers!

m&t

Bruce Leroy joins us for a full-on 90s spiral — cartoons, toys, bad decisions, and the strange realization that we’re all officially in different phases of life now. With birthdays looming (44, 47, and a “still-only-40”), we talk retirement dreams, food trucks, moving to the Philippines, and why there’s no rush to have life figured out.

Then we go deep on 90s culture: legendary cartoon intro music, Ninja Turtles vs. GI Joes, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, He-Man being a toy first, and the absolute chaos of Blockbuster nights (including bike theft and surprise movies behind the wrong case). We reminisce about Tamagotchis, Furbies, Pogs, fake candy cigarettes, and doing wildly dumb things as kids — like outrunning a chow named Bear and learning lessons the hard way.

We also get into cancel culture, social media, being present at concerts, how posting habits change as we age, and whether the 90s were actually better — or just different. From Dewey Decimal research to today’s information overload, from old-school video games building grit to modern attention spans shrinking, we try to make sense of what’s gained and what’s lost.

It’s nostalgia, life perspective, and a lot of laughs — plus a reminder that more money doesn’t fix bad habits, not everyone has to win, and sometimes falling into a trash can saves your life.

Cheers!

m&t

🎙️BIG episode energy on this one.
First off—this was our first-ever live stream on Twitch, and yeah… we’re doing that every week now. No turning back.

We’re joined by the phenomenal and well-established reggae-rock scene artist, Cameron Schuyler, and the legendary reggae-rock scene veteran, Michael Patti–and somehow this episode turned into a perfect mix of art, music, origin stories, and absolute nonsense (as it should).

Mike’s been off all week and actually got to hang with Cameron and Patti before the show, which made this feel less like an interview and more like friends catching up—with microphones and a live chat watching 👀.

Cameron tells the wild story of how his career really started—connecting with Dirty Heads through Facebook, doing flyers and illustrations for bands, and selling his very first piece ever… to Dirty Heads. Word spread, things snowballed, and the rest is history. We go way back into Cameron’s origin story—from being “the guy who drew sketches for everyone” (mostly Ninja Turtles) to live painting on stage with DIRTY HEADS in front of a deafening, absolutely insane crowd.

Michael Patti brings a killer perspective on how the reggae genre has expanded—and then straight up exploded—over the last few decades. He also shares the very unsexy but very cool story of how The Pier actually started. Real talk, real grind.

Tony wipes out on his bike (he’s fine… mostly), we realize our old hair and clothing choices were objectively wild, and then things take a turn. We talk real division in the country, ICE, rubber bullets, questionable vetting, and Trump continuing to say things that feel like Mad Libs gone wrong. Tony is officially undefeated in the comment section and is (probably) retiring before it gets ugly.

From there it’s Bears vs. Rams, brutal Chicago cold, and why Tony is weirdly at peace no matter how this season ends (Mike remains emotionally trapped as a Cowboys fan - Thank God for Duke!). We break down playoff predictions, elite defenses (Denver 👀), and why birds breathing is honestly one of nature’s strangest flexes. Plus: Rogan talk, Nuggets praise, an overpriced but elite new basketball, a Kidgee shoutout, and a WOOT WOOT for next week’s guests Michael Patti and Cameron Schuyler.

Chaos. Sports. Science. Growth. Kind of. 🎙️🏈🦅

Cheers!

m&t

This week we sit down with Terrell Matheny — entertainer, rapper, singer, actor, filmmaker, and all-around creative Swiss Army knife. And instead of just doing the usual highlight-reel interview, Terrell keeps it real… like really real.

We talk about:
• The grind behind being multi-talented (and why it’s both a blessing and a curse)
• Creativity, identity, and what happens when your brain never hits the off switch
• Mental health, bipolar disorder, and why honesty beats pretending you’re “fine”
• The difference between chasing validation and chasing purpose
• And how turning pain into art can be both healing and terrifying

There are laughs, heavy moments, thoughtful pauses, and the kind of honesty you don’t always get when the mics are on — but we got it anyway.

No fake hype. No polished PR answers. Just a genuine conversation with someone who isn’t afraid to talk about the messy stuff and the magic.

Hit play, get comfortable, and ride with us on this one.
🎧🔥

Cheers!

m&t

It’s the first episode of 2026, and the boys are back… slightly rounder, slightly wiser, and wildly unprepared for athletic endeavors.

Tony’s coming off a long break and mentally bracing himself to return to work, while Mike reflects on his wholesome (and surprisingly heroic) holiday tradition—inviting people over for Christmas and offering rides to anyone stranded on New Year’s Eve. Basically, Mike might be an actual angel.

We cover moving horror stories and make one thing crystal clear:
👉We are officially too old to move our friends.
Hire someone. Prepare. Stretch. Don’t call us. Actually... maybe you can call Mike.

New Year’s resolutions are on the table:
• Tony’s been cooking and baking… unfortunately, in a way that screams future diabetes and heart disease, so he’s pivoting to a healthier lane.
• Mike’s getting organized and diving into a serious body recomp.
• Both of us admit the holidays hit hard. Time to clean it up.

From there, things get weird (as usual):
We unpack the absurd ideas we blindly inherit from our parents, dive into real crime stories (why is it always the quiet close ones?!), and marvel at how some people commit elaborate crimes… then Google “how to get rid of a body” like absolute amateurs.

Also in this episode:
• Mike takes a ChatGPT master class 🤯
• Wild Olympic sports that almost made it
• Fast walkers apparently live longer (Tony expected to live forever—smoke coming off those sneakers)
• And the surprisingly beautiful fact that choir singers’ heartbeats synchronize when they sing together

New year. Same chaos. Let’s go.

Cheers!

m&t

It’s a post-Christmas pod, and things go exactly where you’d expect… and then way off the rails.

Mike spends a couple days deathly ill, Tony defends his lifelong love of Legos (especially space sets, because obviously), and we debate whether Voltron is an actual word people use in everyday conversation. From Transformers nostalgia to the strangely fascinating world of arm wrestling—how do these tiny dudes keep beating absolute giants?!

We also dig into Colorado accents (yes, they’re real), the linguistic clues that force Tony to finally admit his California roots, and why Colorado speech is flatter, calmer, and less dramatic than the rest of the country. Then we react to the wild TikTok comments we’ve been getting lately—some shockingly helpful (there is a connection between Amelia Earhart and coconut crabs 👀), others just doing classic troll things.

The conversation bounces through teaching during Covid, the absurdity of “civilized” rules of war, people who get away with murder (hard pass), crows vs. ravens beefing in the wild, the absolutely mind-blowing idea that your gut was your first brain, a reality check on Anthony Joshua vs. Jake Paul, and we wrap with New Year’s resolutions—organization for Mike, more cooking for Tony.

It’s weird, funny, thoughtful, and exactly what a post-holiday episode should be.

Cheers!

m&t