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The Middle of Culture

De : Peter and Eden Jones
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Two siblings come at pop culture from different standpoints and meet in the middle to discuss. Along the way, we introduce each other to things we love and media that brings us joy. And sometimes rage.

© 2025 Peter and Eden Jones
Musique Sciences sociales
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    • DC in Tiers: From Superman to F*** You Forever
      Jun 22 2025

      In this lively and irreverent episode of The Middle of Culture, Peter and Eden build a tier list ranking 29 DC movies, from the highs of Christopher Reeve's iconic Superman to the lows of Black Adam, which earns a new category all its own: "F*** You Forever." Along the way, they debate the merits of Nolan's Batman trilogy, praise Margot Robbie while trashing her material, and wax poetic about Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman and the ridiculous joy of Catwoman (2004). The episode also dives into recent reads, including the emotionally devastating Adachi and Shimamura 99.9, with Eden delivering an impassioned recounting that might just wreck you. Add in some heat-dome weather talk, tech-death music recs, and plenty of hot takes, and you've got one of the most entertaining episodes yet.

      Episode Notes:

      Welcome Back

      • Eden shares weather misery and emotional tales of crying over Adachi and Shimamura
      • Peter updates on his son's relentless swim meet schedule and praises the dedication of teen athletes

      What We're Into

      • Eden continues to love The Apothecary Diaries, now reading it aloud with Cassi
      • Deep emotional dive into Adachi and Shimamura 99.9, including:
        • Cozy slice-of-life moments
        • Post-apocalyptic existentialism
        • A bittersweet afterlife reunion that left Eden in tears
      • Peter shares his current reading on behavior change and playing Mario Kart with the kids
      • Metal music recs from Peter:
        • Fallujah and Exocrine (tech-death highlights)
        • Sigh's re-recording of Hangman's Hymn (2007 → 2025 edition)

      The Tier List Begins

      • 29 DC movies ranked from S-tier to a newly invented bottom tier
      • Immediate praise for Superman: The Movie -- the only true S-tier film
      • Batman Begins and The Batman hold strong in A-tier
      • The Dark Knight lands at a controversial B, Dark Knight Rises flops to D
      • Surprising affection for Catwoman bumps it up to C, while Suicide Squad, Justice League, and Black Adam are rightfully trashed
      • Eden passionately defends the joyfully chaotic Batman & Robin, despite its execution
      • Zack Snyder's Justice League makes it to B solely for its absurdity
      • Lego Batman wins hearts, even from Eden who has a Lego movie vendetta

      New Tier Created: "F*** You Forever"

      • Reserved exclusively for Black Adam, a film so despised that Peter stopped watching anything with The Rock afterward

      Wrap-Up

      • One clear conclusion: 1978's Superman stands unmatched
      • Richard Donner hailed as the god-tier director James Gunn can't touch
      • Gentle roast of MCU's decline vs DC's chaotic legacy
      • Call to action: listeners encouraged to weigh in via feedback@themiddleofculture.com
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      1 h et 6 min
    • From Dollhouses to Deathrails: The Taking of Pelham ONe Two Three (1974)
      Jun 10 2025

      Show Notes:

      Life Updates & Pencil Parties

      - Eden recounts a surreal Minneapolis trip to witness the "sharpening" of a 20-foot neighborhood pencil statue.

      - Attendees included 1,500+ people, costumes, DJs, and a fake giant pencil sharpener hoisted into place.

      - Cassi already has cosplay plans for next year.

      Dollhouses, Gundams & DIY Projects

      - Eden builds a full miniature room box to pose model kits like Gundams in.

      - Explores the satisfying craft process of assembling furniture, windows, and baseboards in a modular design.

      Music Corner

      - New Katatonia album: promising with fresh energy, but Peter reserves judgment.

      - Rivers of Nihil: cool influence from Black Crown Initiate, but repeated saxophone use is a dealbreaker for Peter.

      - Vildhjarta: heavy, adventurous, and rewards deep listening.

      Gaming Talk

      - Peter's impressions of the Switch 2: improved Mario Kart experience with 24-player chaos, but still not a travel must-have.

      - Thoughts on the cult of Nintendo vs. more versatile handheld platforms like the Steam Deck.

      - Eden's attempt to play Synduality: Echo of Ada ends in a refund due to game-breaking texture issues.

      Cult & Camp Cinema

      - Eden attends a VHS screening of the awful-but-fun 1970s exploitation film White Fire with a themed drinking game.

      - Peter is tempted by the trailer but is firmly advised: "Don't watch White Fire."

      Reading Recommendations

      - Eden finishes all 11 published volumes of Adachi and Shimomura, including volume 99.9 (sci-fi time-jump bonus stories).

      - Enthusiastic recommendation of The Apothecary Diaries, a mystery series set in a fictionalized ancient China full of intrigue and clever deduction.

      What We're Watching

      - Peter enjoys Taskmaster Season 19 with Jason Mantzoukas, calling it chaotic, hilarious, and worth the YouTube binge.

      Main Topic: The Taking of Pelham One Two Three (1974)

      - Eden loved it: tense, stylish, electric; Peter found it frustratingly flat in tension and offensively dated.

      - Discussion touches on 70s NYC despair, racism and misogyny in period pieces, Walter Matthau's charisma, and how modern remakes miss the gritty charm of the original.

      - Fun fact: Robert Shaw (Mr. Blue) also played Quint in Jaws.

      - Finale: Walter Matthau's "Gesundheit" stare is iconic.

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      1 h et 7 min
    • Oops, All Bummers: Edith Finch
      May 27 2025

      Episode Notes:

      - The episode opens with Eden reading a Tumblr post that hilariously and bleakly explains modern burnout as a result of living in a crumbling world. Peter and Eden relate strongly, setting the tone for a cathartic conversation.

      - Eden checks in with the ongoing Adachi and Shimamura manga journey. Volume 8 features a flash-forward to adulthood and two momentous forehead kisses.

      - Gaming fatigue takes center stage as Eden recounts failed attempts to get into Sunhaven, Paradise Killer, and even the stylish-but-demanding Shenmue. Nothing sticks.

      - Eden shares a new afternoon ritual: practicing Gong Fu tea ceremonies. A color-changing fox teapet becomes a symbol of small joys amid burnout.

      - Music talk includes Pelican's new album, which fell flat in comparison to a recent live show from Russian Circles, with Pelican being described as "bargain-basement Russian Circles."

      - Peter introduces Bleed's debut album, which feels like a time capsule from the early 2000s alt-rock scene. It's not groundbreaking, but the nostalgia hits just right.

      - Avowed patch 1.4 discussion highlights fun new features: spiders replaced with spheres, better loot drops, and the return of everyone's favorite character, the raunchy and hilarious Yatzli.

      - Main topic: What Remains of Edith Finch. Peter and Eden break down their impressions of the game:

      - It's emotionally heavy, occasionally to a fault.

      - Some vignettes (like Lewis's cannery sequence and Barbara's horror comic) are standout.

      - Others, like Molly's transformation or Gregory's bathtub scene, fall flat or feel manipulative.

      - Both hosts agree it's visually and structurally ambitious, but uneven.

      - Eden calls it the "death knell" of the walking simulator genre.

      - Final thoughts reflect on the evolution of indie storytelling and how walking sims have largely given way to more interactive, mechanic-rich narratives.

      - The episode wraps with a discussion of the flawed 7-to-9 scoring scale used in video game reviews and how many games get overhyped despite major issues.

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      1 h et 2 min

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