• (00:00:00) - Management Partners Podcast
• (00:01:55) - Start a Law Firm: Jane Rosenthal
• (00:09:32) - The Secret to Becoming a Better Lawyer
• (00:12:29) - How to Get Out of the Personal Injury Trap
• (00:17:37) - Should You Focus Your Law Firm?
• (00:24:43) - Bootstrapping: The Next Level
• (00:28:21) - How to Win a Win
• (00:28:32) - 10 Steps to Becoming a Million-Dollar Winner
• (00:31:52) - How to really listen to this podcast

What does it really take to scale a law firm profitably?

In this episode of the Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Brooke Lively, law firm growth expert, EOS implementer, and founder of CathCap, to unpack why most attorneys struggle to run their firms like businesses. From costly hiring mistakes that can exceed 150,000 dollars per attorney to the six key components of EOS, this conversation dives deep into execution, accountability, leadership, and culture.

Brooke explains how law firm owners can move from chaos to clarity using 90-day rocks, measurable data dashboards, core value alignment, and process optimization. They also discuss the biggest myth about self-implementing EOS and why most firms only scratch the surface without guidance.

If you are a managing partner looking to improve law firm profitability, build a self-managing team, reduce turnover, and create scalable systems, this episode delivers practical strategies you can implement immediately.

Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we are a fit.

• (00:00:00) - How to Build a Million- Dollar Firm
• (00:00:32) - Brooke Lively On The Managing Partners Podcast
• (00:01:16) - When You Should See Your Match Again
• (00:01:50) - How to Build a Law Firm on EOS
• (00:05:49) - How to Use EOS to Scale Your Law Firm
• (00:12:12) - Six Key Components to Getting Your Book Done
• (00:13:10) - Six Areas of Strengthening the Firm
• (00:14:23) - The next thing is data. And then that's.
• (00:15:12) - The 5 Components of a Strategic Plan
• (00:18:48) - Hiring in the Age of EOS
• (00:21:56) - How to Fill a Position
• (00:24:46) - The 3-Step Process for Growing Your Firm
• (00:28:38) - Core Values vs Accidental Values
• (00:31:54) - EOS: Scaling Law
• (00:33:37) - EOS for Law Firms: Connect with Brooke Scaling Law

What happens when a lawyer goes all-in on a niche and builds relationships the right way?

In this episode, Kevin Daisey sits down with Jordan Jones, founder of Los Angeles Truck Accident Lawyers, to unpack how he transitioned from a large Michigan firm to launching his own trucking-focused practice in California. Jordan breaks down how referrals, intentional networking, and disciplined spending helped him grow quickly without overextending his firm.

They explore why trucking cases demand a different mindset, how law firm owners can avoid scaling traps, and why speaking and teaching outperform selling when it comes to long-term growth. This conversation is packed with real-world insights for managing partners navigating early-stage growth, staffing challenges, and operational maturity.

Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit.

• (00:00:00) - Jordan Jones on The Managing Partners Podcast
• (00:01:07) - Truck Accident Lawyers: How Did We Get Connected?
• (00:03:17) - How To Start Your Own Law Firm on 24
• (00:07:49) - Starting a Business as a Web Designer
• (00:09:34) - Criminal Lawyer Gets Into Trucking
• (00:12:47) - How to Get a Deal on Your Car
• (00:13:02) - Truck Business: Where Are You?
• (00:16:28) - Ex-Truckers on Their Cases
• (00:17:46) - How to Win a Trucking Case
• (00:22:16) - What Makes a PI Lawyer So Motivated?
• (00:23:47) - Startups Are Worth It
• (00:26:55) - Jordan Jones on Speaking At Conferences

• (00:00:00) - Michael Cohen on the Managing Partners Podcast
• (00:01:12) - Starting Your Own Law Firm
• (00:02:52) - Owning Your Own Law Firm
• (00:06:38) - 4 Rules for More Money in the Office
• (00:12:09) - Letting Others Do It Their Way
• (00:14:00) - Law Firm Executives on Referral Marketing
• (00:20:04) - How to Build a Referral Based Marketing Practice
• (00:21:07) - Is intake important for marketing, advertising?
• (00:22:58) - What Can You Do to Make a Job Offer More Personal?
• (00:23:52) - Onboarding the Firm's Talent
• (00:30:03) - How to Make a Living as a Trial Lawyer
• (00:31:07) - Reach Out, Connect: Michael Owen
• (00:31:40) - Reach Out Trial Lawyer Nation Podcast

Too many law firm owners believe the solution to their problems is more leads—but that mindset often leads to burnout, inefficiency, and frustration. In this episode of The Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey is joined by Jordan Ostroff to unpack the idea of “leads to lifestyle” and why intentional growth matters more than raw volume.

Jordan shares his journey from prosecutor to firm owner to coach, including how cutting a massive marketing budget barely impacted revenue but completely transformed his quality of life. Together, they explore how intake, profitability, case selection, and personal vision play a bigger role in long-term success than flashy marketing tactics.

This episode is a must-listen for law firm owners who want clarity, sustainability, and a firm that supports—not controls—their life.

Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit.

• (00:00:00) - Managing Partners Podcast
• (00:01:59) - Jordan on Love Youe Law Firm, Second Edition
• (00:04:56) - How to Get Out of Jail: Marketing
• (00:06:16) - How to Make a Living as an Attorney
• (00:09:10) - Looking Ahead: How to Grow Your Law Firm?
• (00:14:13) - How to Start a Firm with a New Lawyer
• (00:19:03) - Don't Waste Time on Conferences
• (00:21:15) - How to Love the Journey
• (00:25:54) - Married Business People Talk About Their Personal Lives
• (00:28:51) - Confessions of an Extrovert Law Firm Owner
• (00:32:58) - In the Elevator With Introverts
• (00:34:44) - Jordan Ostrovs' New Book
• (00:35:39) - Covid Digital's Christmas Party
• (00:36:51) - Interview With Jordan

• (00:00:00) - The Managing Partners Podcast
• (00:02:14) - Can You Tell More About Your Law Firm?
• (00:07:29) - How to Build a Strong Partnerial Partnership
• (00:10:53) - 7 critical things employees need to know about their firm
• (00:11:43) - The Chick Fil A Law Firm Values
• (00:15:16) - 7 Critical Needs of Employees for EOS
• (00:19:09) - Hiring the Right People for the Core Values
• (00:24:30) - What Makes a Law Firm So Well-Off?
• (00:27:40) - Six Rules for Protecting Your Culture
• (00:31:34) - Fractional HR: Paying the Right People
• (00:33:26) - 7 critical needs for employees at your firm

Budgeting is one of the most overlooked and most critical skills for law firm owners. In this episode, Kevin Daisey is joined by Leah Miller, a fractional CFO who specializes in law firms, to break down how lawyers can finally get clarity around cash flow, expenses, marketing spend, and profitability.

They discuss why so many firms struggle with budgeting, especially contingency and personal injury practices, and how simply reviewing your financial statements monthly can transform decision-making. Leah Miller shares practical frameworks for building a realistic budget, determining your true breakeven point, managing uneven cash flow, and avoiding common financial traps.

You’ll also learn how budgeting impacts marketing, hiring, tax planning, and long-term growth, and why having the right financial conversations early can save years of stress later.

Today’s episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind.

Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit.

If you’re a law firm owner who wants to stop guessing and start leading with confidence, this episode is a must-listen.

• (00:00:00) - The Best Lawyers: Managing Partners Podcast
• (00:00:37) - Budgeting for Law Firm Executives
• (00:01:47) - How to Manage a Law Firm
• (00:05:49) - Law Firm Business Financials
• (00:10:35) - Budgeting for Marketing
• (00:13:39) - How to Manage Cash Flow in the Firm
• (00:16:38) - How many months of cash should a firm have on hand?
• (00:21:31) - How to Run a Business with a Roth IRA
• (00:27:34) - CFO vs Law Firm CFO: Making Smart Decisions
• (00:30:54) - Leah on Connecting With People

What does it really take to build a law firm that lasts?

In this episode of the Managing Partners Podcast, Kevin Daisey sits down with Brian Beckcom of VB Attorneys to discuss how his firm has thrived for more than 20 years with the same partner, the same team, and a clear philosophy around trust, systems, and growth. Brian shares hard-earned lessons from big law, plaintiff-side practice, digital marketing evolution, and why equal partnerships matter more than revenue splits.

They also dive into remote work, firm culture, accountability, AI in legal practice, and what law firm owners must do today to build a business that doesn’t depend on them every minute of the day.

Today's episode is sponsored by The Managing Partners Mastermind. Click here to schedule an interview to see if we’re a fit.

This episode is a must-listen for law firm owners, managing partners, and attorneys thinking long-term about leadership and sustainability.