In this urgent conversation, Jonathan Haidt and Jordan Peterson dissect the silent catastrophe facing Gen Z—spiraling anxiety, attention collapse, and social isolation—all amplified by addictive tech. They explore the psychological and spiritual fallout of algorithm-optimized platforms, the gendered impact on boys and girls, and what it means to raise children in a virtualized world. Data-driven but deeply human, this is essential viewing for anyone wondering what the hell happened after 2012—and how to fix it.

This episode was filmed on June 9th, 2025

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For Jonathan Haidt:

On X https://x.com/jonhaidt?lang=en

On Substack https://substack.com/@jonathanhaidt

On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@JonathanHaidt1/videos

Website https://jonathanhaidt.com/

Read “The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness” https://a.co/d/04yfM36

In this powerful lecture from the We Who Wrestle With God tour, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson explores why stories aren't just entertainment—but the essential structure through which we perceive reality, aim toward meaning, and shape our lives. From biblical archetypes to everyday struggles, Peterson weaves a compelling argument that our suffering, identity, and moral choices are all governed by the stories we believe and the sacrifices we're willing to make. Drawing on deep psychological insight and ancient wisdom, he reveals that without a unifying aim, we drift toward bitterness and chaos—but with the right sacrifice, we forge a path toward meaning, community, and spiritual alignment.

This “We Who Wrestle With God” tour stop was filmed in Reading, PA on October 14th, 2024.

Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris explore the breakdown of institutions in the digital age, and how difficult it’s become to identify what’s true and what’s not. Harris voices deep concern over the role independent media and social platforms play in amplifying misinformation, especially post-October 7th. They discuss the addictive, fragmenting nature of platforms like X, the erosion of trust in institutions, the dangers of AI-generated identity theft — and possible solutions. The result is a sobering analysis of epistemic collapse, digital psychopathy, and the urgent need for institutional structure in a world where mass information fails us.

'This episode was filmed on June 6th, 2025.

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For Sam Harris:

On X https://twitter.com/MakingSenseHQ

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/samharrisorg/?hl=en

On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@samharrisorg

Substack https://samharris.substack.com/

The Waking Up App https://www.wakingup.com/