In Today’s episode, Saul talks with Joelle Johns on the importance of community education on death, dying and grief. Joelle is a pastoral thanatologist and a clinical chaplain.

When someone close to us dies at an older age, we often take comfort not only in celebrating their life, but also in knowing that death is part of the natural process of living. This experience is not the same when you are faced with the sudden death of your child. In this episode, Julie Spears talks about the tragic death of her 16 year old son and how she has coped with it.

This is Part Two of Saul’s conversation with Ronald Greer about his new book, “The Quiet House.” Ron Greer is the Director of the Pastoral Counseling Service at Peachtree Road United Methodist Church in Atlanta, Georgia, having been with this ministry for forty years. He is an ordained United Methodist minister, a Fellow of the American Association of Pastoral Counselors, and a Clinical Fellow of the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy.

He is the author of four books: The Path of Compassion: Living with Heart, Soul, and Mind; Now That They Are Grown: Successfully Parenting Your Adult Children; Markings on the Windowsill: A Book About Grief That’s Really About Hope; and If You Know Who You Are, You’ll Know What to Do: Living with Integrity.

A native of Louisiana, he has a Bachelor of Science from Louisiana State University, a Masters of Divinity from the Candler School of Theology at Emory University, and a Masters of Theology in pastoral counseling from Columbia Theological Seminary.

You can find out more about Ron here; https://ronaldjgreer.com/