Tony and Steve sit down with the famous Joe Tate and discuss HR, knowing your employees, and how to learn to present in front of crowds. Joe drops music history knowledge and references his recent trip to Japan. ...And illuminated toilet bowls.

Learn more about Joe Tate at: https://boostrecruits.com/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-tate-a92b02/
Learn more about Fantastic Tony Benjamin at: https://www.thegrangellc.com/
Learn more about Steven "Big Deal" Smith at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/
Learn more about the Books mentioned on the podcast at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/hr-life-podcast
Learn more about Dyno Outfitters at: https://www.utahviaferrata.com/
Learn more about MegastarHR at: https://www.megastarhr.com/
Learn more about Pucks for Autism at: https://www.pucksforautism.com/

Voice audio distortion courtesy of The Internet.

Experienced Human Resources executive with multi-national experience in Telecommunications, Computers (Sales/Manufacturing), Financial Services, Management and Transportation. Strategic, technical and legal expertise in employee relations, staffing, benefits, organizational development, growth initiatives, workers compensation and other matters across all 50 states. Led the corporate HR team with direct HR oversight for 115 physical locations in North America including Canada and Puerto Rico.

Tony and Steve welcome Aric Bostick, keynote speaker, former classroom teacher, professional crowd-energizer, and the man Steve publicly credits for telling him to get on a stage when he was just some guy with a book idea and a lot of enthusiasm. Aric brings the science of attachment theory out of the therapy room and drops it straight into your org chart. You'll learn why people leave companies that pay more to work somewhere they feel seen. Why your resting face is already sending a message to your team (it's probably not the one you want). Why "soft skills" is the wrong name for the hardest thing most managers will never learn.

For the record, Tony has never made a mistake.

Learn more about Fantastic Tony Benjamin at: https://www.thegrangellc.com/
Learn more about Steven "Big Deal" Smith at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/
Learn more about the Books mentioned on the podcast at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/hr-life-podcast
Learn more about Dyno Outfitters at: https://www.utahviaferrata.com/
Learn more about MegastarHR at: https://www.megastarhr.com/
Learn more about Pucks for Autism at: https://www.pucksforautism.com/

Steve and Tony attended the Fuel HR conference on May 14, 2026. They talked the EEOC's case against the NY Times, diversity, and interviewed several attendees. The most pertinent piece of advice they got from the conference is "If you're going to discriminate, don't advertise and document it."

Note: There were two interviews that were lost due to computer and sound issues. We apologize to those two people and will get them back on the show soon.

On a more positive note, Steve and Tony introduced a lot of people to LimeRickys.