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 An award-winning podcast series by Greengage - embracing innovation and building trust in digital finance - designed to bring expert opinions on the latest tech trends and providing a measured approach to discussing key developments in the world of blockchain and digital assets.
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    • Episode 39 - Stablecoins, Singleness of Money and the Global Regulatory Race

      Episode 39 - Stablecoins, Singleness of Money and the Global Regulatory Race
      Feb 6 2026
      In this episode, we’re joined by Elise Soucie Watts, policy leader in digital finance and Executive Director at the Global Digital Finance (GDF).
      Elise shares her journey from the FCA to shaping global policy at GDF, and explains why stablecoin regulation is about more than just rules — it’s about creating frameworks that support responsible innovation, market integrity, and global interoperability.
      We explore key topics including:
      • How institutions approach crypto differently from retail investors
      • What the “singleness of money” means — and why stablecoins don’t need to break it
      • A comparison of MiCA (EU) and the GENIUS Act (US) and what “competitive regulation” looks like
      • Why the UAE is emerging as a serious jurisdiction for stablecoin innovation
      • The small but critical technical policy decisions that shape real-world market outcomes
      • What’s next: agentic AI, programmable payments, and the growing challenge of cross-border alignment
      A must-listen for anyone working in digital assets, payments, stablecoin policy, or regulatory strategy.

      Listen to our other podcasts: https://www.greengage.co/podcasts

      About GDF:
      GDF is a leading global members’ association offering an open innovation platform for advocating and accelerating the adoption of best practices for digital assets.


      For more information, visit https://www.gdf.io/ .
      Time stamps:
      00:00 – Intro + welcome (Elise Soucie Watts)
      01:00 – Elise’s background: FCA → AFME → GDF
      03:00 – What GDF does + who they work with (banks, issuers, exchanges, L1s)
      05:20 – Why regulator experience matters (and how to engage regulators well)
      07:40 – What “digital” means in policy: DLT, crypto, infrastructure change
      09:40 – Outside Context: sci-fi, tech, and “outside context problems”
      12:30 – Stablecoins + “singleness of money”: what inspired the paper
      15:15 – Terra/Luna, confidence, and what regulation should focus on
      17:30 – The big idea: convertibility vs “redemption at all costs”
      20:20 – MiCA vs the GENIUS Act: what matters (and what’s still unknown)
      23:40 – Other key regimes: UAE, Hong Kong, Singapore + competitiveness
      25:10 – UK stablecoin limits: are they real, and do they make sense?
      26:30 – Where regulators & industry disconnect (ETNs, ISAs + small technical choices)
      28:40 – The next frontier: agentic AI + programmable payments
      29:30 – Geopolitics + cross-border coordination
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      31 min
    • Episode 38 - Bridging Traditional Finance and DeFi with Alessio Marinelli, Founder of CREDI

      Episode 38 - Bridging Traditional Finance and DeFi with Alessio Marinelli, Founder of CREDI
      Jul 23 2025
      In this episode of The Gage, our CEO speaks with Alessio Marinelli, the founder of CREDI, about the emerging role of tokenization and private credit in reshaping financial services. Drawing on a career spanning engineering, big four consultancy, and managing a billion-dollar blockchain-based credit book, Alessio shares how his journey led to the creation of CREDI—a platform designed to bridge traditional finance with next-gen digital infrastructure.
      The conversation explores how DeFi is being applied to real-world credit markets, with a focus on transparency, efficiency, and regulatory compliance. Alessio explains how Credi leverages blockchain to power SME lending, create yield-backed credit opportunities, and build trust in tokenized credit. They also discuss the growing relevance of on-chain credit platforms and what this means for the future of digital finance.
      Listen to our other podcasts: https://www.greengage.co/podcasts

      About CREDI:
      CREDI is a financial technology company specialising in on-chain Private Credit portfolios. Its mission is to eliminate inefficiencies and provide more transparent, higher yielding opportunities for Liquidity Providers, whilst unlocking much needed funding for businesses.
      For more information, visit https://www.credilabs.io/.

      Time stamps:
      · 00:00 – 01:00 - Introduction of Alessio Marinelli and overview of his background
      · 01:00 – 03:00 - Alessio’s career journey
      · 03:00 – 04:30 - Transition into blockchain and private credit
      · 04:30 – 06:00 - Why tokenization matters
      · 06:00 – 07:30 - How CREDI bridges traditional finance and DeFi, combining credit underwriting expertise with blockchain innovation.
      · 07:30 – 09:00 - Tokenization's role in creating novel financial products and streamlining compliance processes
      · 09:00 – 11:00 - Approach to SME lending
      · 11:00 – 13:00 - Risk management strategies
      · 13:00 – 15:00 - Questions from liquidity providers
      · 15:00 – 16:00 - Future plans for CREDI
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      16 min
    • Episode 37 - Building the Future of Finance: Blockchain, AI, and Inclusive Innovation

      Episode 37 - Building the Future of Finance: Blockchain, AI, and Inclusive Innovation
      May 28 2025
      In this first video episode of The Gage, Greengage CEO Sean Kiernan sits down with Nicolas Cary, Co-Founder of Blockchain.com, to explore the past, present, and future of digital finance. Nicolas shares his entrepreneurial journey from selling clams as a child to founding Blockchain.com. His early ventures included e-commerce and encrypted messaging platforms, highlighting his lifelong interest in technology and innovation.
      Motivated by the 2008 financial crisis and distrust in legacy systems, Cary discovered Bitcoin and co-founded Blockchain.info (now Blockchain.com), which developed the first Bitcoin block explorer and wallet software. The company grew from mapping early Bitcoin adoption to becoming a leading crypto wallet and platform with millions of users.
      Cary explains Bitcoin as a form of "digital gold" that represents a countermeasure to inflation and centralised control. He highlights the technology’s decentralisation, transparency, and potential to become the reserve asset of the internet.
      Blockchain.com has raised nearly $1B and is preparing for a public offering. Cary discusses the firm’s evolution from retail to institutional services, emphasizing the importance of building resilient systems to navigate crypto’s market cycles.
      Beyond tech, Cary passionately supports inclusive entrepreneurship through SkysTheLimit.org, a nonprofit empowering underestimated entrepreneurs from low-income backgrounds with mentorship, funding, and tools to build businesses. The initiative includes innovative pilots like DAO-based grant funding.
      Looking ahead, Cary predicts:
      • A convergence of AI and crypto where AI agents autonomously transact using crypto wallets.
      • A rise in tokenized real-world assets (RWAs), enabling fractional ownership of everything from distilleries to infrastructure.
      • More companies opting for token-based fundraising models over traditional IPOs.
      • Increased financial inclusion through open-access digital tools.
      Cary reflects on the maturation of the crypto industry, from niche tech to global infrastructure, and the importance of building a better, fairer financial system. He believes collaboration, decentralisation, and entrepreneurship are key to unlocking global prosperity.
      For more information about Blockchain.com, visit https://www.blockchain.com
      Listen to our other podcasts: https://www.greengage.co/podcasts

      Time stamps
      · 0:00–2:00 – Introduction to Nicolas Cary & Blockchain.com
      · 2:00–6:30 – Early entrepreneurial journey
      · 6:30–10:00 – Founding Blockchain.com after the 2008 crisis
      · 10:00–15:00 – Bitcoin, market cycles & decentralisation
      · 15:00–19:00 – Scaling from retail to institutional clients
      · 19:00–23:00 – Sky’s the Limit & crypto for good
      · 23:00–26:00 – AI agents, tokenization & the future
      · 26:00–29:00 – Building during bear markets
      · 29:00–30:30 – Final thoughts on trust & innovation
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      33 min
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