Some demons won’t leave until you heal.In this episode, Dan and Jordan take a bold look at the real connection between emotional wounds, therapy, and spiritual warfare. Can inner healing make exorcisms more effective? Why are so many Catholics resistant to therapy? And how do wounds become spiritual entry points for the enemy?Drawing from real-world cases, Church teaching, and personal experience, this episode uncovers the hidden barriers to deliverance and how grace works through both spiritual direction and psychology. What You’ll Learn: •How wounds can open the door to demonic oppression •The difference between spiritual direction and therapy •Why rejecting psychology can be a spiritual blind spot •What faithful Catholic therapy actually looks likeReferenced in this episode: •The Exorcism Files by Fr. Carlos Martins •CatholicTherapists.com •Fr. Ripperger’s work on Thomistic psychology •Jordans Article: Vineyard: https://onvineyard.com/dotheharderthing/the-intersection-of-exorcism-and-emotional-healing-2098or on substack: https://dotheharderthing.substack.com/p/the-intersection-of-exorcism-and?r=3076lt====================🔥You know that there are battles all around us. But did you know about the battle in - and for - your mind? Learn how to fight, and win, with this free video course! ➡️ https://bit.ly/3U9qOjqPlease visit the Spotify Podcast page for links to all the other resources mentioned in the show!====================Subscribe to our Podcast: Spotify ➡ https://open.spotify.com/show/4klx2Ao6HQFXQYhJ7lPpuw?si=74cae2f132cd4b49Apple ➡ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-devil-is-in-the-details/id1763882809====================Connect with us!Instagram:Dan ➡ https://www.instagram.com/danburkeofficial/Jordan ➡ https://www.instagram.com/dothe_harderthing/====================Questions? - Leave them in the comments below, or send them over to "questions@myavila.com"====================⏰ Timecodes ⏰0:00 The Intersection of Exorcism, Emotional Healing, and Therapy6:32 Debating the Misuse of Psychology and Religious Practices9:13 Finding Truth Through Science and Faith11:17 The Interplay of Spirituality and Psychology in Personal Growth13:54 The Importance of Addressing Emotional Wounds in Exorcism#spiritualwarfare #catholic #discernmentofspirits #catholicpodcast #catholicspirituality #mentalprayer #danburke #jordanburke #devilinthedetails

Dan and Jordan Burke unpack Rule 10 of St. Ignatius’ Discernment of Spirits—how to prepare during times of peace for future spiritual battles. They share personal stories of suffering, grit, and grace, revealing why storing up consolation is vital for hope and perseverance. Learn to love the fight, not just the victory.

If you’re practicing mental prayer and still feel spiritually dry, Rule 9 explains why—and what God may be trying to show you.

Why does God allow desolation even when you’re doing everything right? In this episode, we break down Rule 9 from St. Ignatius’ 14 Rules for the Discernment of Spirits. We dive into the three core reasons God permits spiritual dryness: our own negligence, a test of our love, and a deep reminder that we are not the source of consolation—He is. We also get practical about how to recognize desolation, track your progress, and build a concrete Rule of Life that will anchor you in the battle. Whether you’re new to Ignatian discernment or well into your spiritual journey, this one will challenge and encourage you.

Timestamp Summary:

00:00 The Importance of Mental Prayer

01:24 Introduction to Spiritual Warfare and Discernment

02:06 Exploring the First Rule of Discernment

03:02 The Role of Dopamine and Temptation

04:18 The Importance of Spiritual Commitments

07:08 Principle Causes of Desolation

16:34 Creating a Rule of Life

18:37 Practical Tips for Maintaining Spiritual Health

27:43 Using Technology to Support Spiritual Practices

28:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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