Nick and Kevin get into hot takes this week, and it goes further than either of us expected.

We start with The Odyssey (Kevin sees a men's mental health journey, Nick sees the hero's journey doing quiet damage), get into whether there's any such thing as a good person or a bad person, and end up somewhere genuinely uncomfortable: can you look at a violent man and see any of that in yourself? Kevin shares about a traumatic assault, and Nick is so in love that he starts crying. Literally.

Thank you to Kevin for the honesty in this one.

This episode includes a conversation about sexual assault. If you or someone you know has been affected, support is free and confidential, 24/7: National Sexual Assault Hotline: 1-800-656-HOPE (4673), or text HOPE to 64673, or chat at rainn.org/hotline For men specifically: 1in6.org

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When was the last time you complimented another man? Not "nice shoes, bro," an actual compliment.

This week Kevin and Nick actually try it, and it turns out to be way harder than it sounds. We get into why "pretty" is a gendered word when it doesn't need to be, why guys say "she's ugly" instead of "she's attractive, just not my type," and Nick's theory that a huge amount of male behavior: the avoided eye contact, the man caves inside feminine hobbies, all of it is a fear-response.

Also: WikiFeet, skinny ankles, tight pants, and Nick talked to a real-life nurse about the "nursing is the job that cheats the most" thing from episode 1 and got a shocking response!

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Nick and Kevin take the show outside to a park in west LA, and end up somewhere pretty personal.

Does any of this resonate? What are your hobbies, and do you let yourself have them? We'd love to hear from you: dadanddaddyshow@gmail.com or @dadanddaddyshow on Instagram and YouTube.