In this wide-ranging and candid conversation, Patrick Flannelly is joined by retired police leader, writer, and trainer Roland Clee to explore how policing has evolved—from handwritten reports, map books, and carbon paper to body cameras, data-driven strategies, and AI-powered tools. Drawing on decades of experience across patrol, investigations, command staff, and missing persons, Roland reflects on what’s been gained, what’s been lost, and why institutional knowledge, professionalism, and strong first-line supervision matter more than ever.

Together, Patrick and Roland dig into the real challenges facing law enforcement today: recruitment and retention, generational change, leadership accountability, training standards, wellness and burnout, crime data blind spots, and the unintended consequences of technology and policy decisions. They also examine how AI can act as a force multiplier—freeing officers from low-value administrative work so they can focus on prevention, problem-solving, and meaningful community engagement—without eroding the fundamentals of good policing. This is a thoughtful, no-nonsense discussion about culture, leadership, and how agencies can adapt without losing their core mission.

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Retired Irving, Texas Police Chief Jeff Spivey sits down with Patrick to reflect on his 35+ year career and the lessons he’s carrying forward into his work with Sworn.AI. From leading a department through major growth to pioneering programs like Code Responders, Spivey shares how collaboration, data-driven strategy, and community partnerships can reshape the role of police in addressing today’s public safety challenges.

The conversation also explores the future of policing, with an emphasis on officer wellness, leadership accountability, and the role of technology. Spivey and Patrick dive into the promise of wearable tech, AI-driven health insights, and civilianization strategies to improve efficiency and protect officer well-being. Together, they paint a picture of a profession at a crossroads—one that must invest in the health and resilience of its people to ensure long-term trust and success.

• Lessons from Jeff Spivey’s 35+ year law enforcement career and time as Chief of Police in Irving, TX.

• The role of data in guiding public safety strategy beyond crime stats.

• How programs like Code Responders improve outcomes for mental health crises.

• Opportunities and challenges of civilianizing certain police roles.

• Why officer wellness is critical to the future of policing.

• The potential of AI and wearable technology to monitor and support public safety workers.

• How partnerships with academic institutions can bring new problem-solving approaches to policing.

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In this episode of The Coptimizer Podcast, Patrick Flannelly sits down with Lou Barani, nationally recognized security expert and advisor to Davista Technologies and Hive Logic, for a cutting-edge discussion on how AI is transforming threat detection and public safety.

From school security to large-scale events like the Olympics, Lou walks us through how integrated, AI-driven platforms are proactively identifying risks and automating threat responses — including active shooter prevention, predictive policing, and real-time threat assessment.

If you’re in law enforcement, school administration, or private security — or simply someone who believes safety and innovation should go hand in hand — this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

🔑 Topics include:

• The integration of Davista and Thrive Logic technologies
• How AI can identify at-risk individuals before incidents occur
• Applications of AI in law enforcement, schools, and large public events
• The role of predictive analytics in reducing response times
• Why embracing tech is essential for modern public safety

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