Featuring:

• Ernest Koe, CEO of Proof
• Ryan McCann, CEO, Claris, an Apple Company

Description:

In this episode, Ernest Koe sits down with Ryan McCann, CEO of Claris, for a wide-ranging conversation about leading a software company through an era of rapid AI change. Ryan shares how he thinks about durable product advantage versus commoditized agentic development and why he believes the role of FileMaker is only going to grow. He also opens up on navigating the transition into the CEO seat, managing signal versus noise from the community, and what the FileMaker 2026 release signals about where the platform is headed.

You can also view this podcast on Youtube.

Featured Links:

• How Claris is building for what comes next.
• Claris FileMaker 2026 is now available.
• Agentic Development in Claris FileMaker.

Featuring:

• Ernest Koe, CEO of Proof
• Todd Geist, CTO of Proof

Description:

In this episode of the Context Podcast, Ernest Koe and Todd Geist cover “This Week in AI: FileMaker Edition.” They dig into the AI hype cycle: why “token maxing” is largely meaningless, why productivity gains don’t automatically translate to revenue, and why attention is the scarcest resource in the agentic era. They also react to a landmark Claris webinar led by former co-host Martha Zink, which drew over 1,000 attendees and previewed first-party agentic development coming to FileMaker.

You can also view this podcast on Youtube.

Featured Links:

• Addy Osmani: The Orchestration Tax (attention engineering in the AI era)
• Ryan McCann’s Blog Post: How Claris is building for what comes next
• Proof Community
• ProofKit
• ProofKit’s YouTube Playlist
• The Mars Trilogy (Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars) – Todd’s book recommendation
• Agentic development with FileMaker
  
  

Featuring:

• Ernest Koe, CEO of Proof
• Todd Geist, CTO of Proof
• Eric Luce, Sr. Software Engineer

Description:

In this episode of the Context Podcast, Ernest Koe, Todd Geist, and Eric Luce dive into This Week in AI: FileMaker Edition. They explore Claris’ strategic pivot and the evolving core value proposition of FileMaker within the AI engineering era. The team also introduces ProofKit, our new toolkit for agentic FileMaker development, discussing how we’re sharing it with the world. Tune in to understand why navigating this AI-driven landscape—filled with both immense opportunity and complex security risks—is more critical than ever.

Interested in ProofKit office hours? Share what you’re building with ProofKit on social media, and email us a link! We’d love to chat about what you’re using it for.

Featured Links:

• Ryan‘s Blog Post: How Claris is building for what comes next.
• Richard Cartlon’s podcast: What Comes Next: FileMaker & AI with Ryan McCann
• Video: Build a FileMaker Web Viewer App in Under 10 Minutes with Cursor + ProofKit
• Proof Community
• Ernest’s Blog Post: A brief investigation into the nature of AI psychosis
• ProofKit
• ProofKit’s YouTube playlist