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Saving lives at sea is not a crime But for the past few years, European states have treated those brave enough to save refugees from drowning in the Mediterranean as if they were breaking the law. Welcome to The Civil Fleet, a podcast by civilfleet.com that focuses on the NGO refugee rescuers in the central Mediterranean and beyond.2021 © Politique et gouvernement Sciences politiques
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    • Episode 85: Greece's criminalisation of Sudanese refugees
      Dec 17 2025
      In this episode, we speak with Mustafa, Bairbre and Louise about the treatment of Sudanese refugees in Greece. Mustafa tells us about the revolution and ongoing proxy war in Sudan. He'll also tell us why he had to flee the country, and the Kafkaesque situation he found himself in after seeking asylum in Greece. Louise and Bairbre tell us more about the situation for people on the move in Greece, how refugees (including children) are being criminalised and sentenced to decades (and sometimes hundreds of years!) in prison for allegedly captaining a boat across the sea or driving a car across the border. We'll also hear about the situation inside Greece's migrant detention camps, and how the solidarity groups Mataris Sudan Solidarity Committee and 50 Out Of Many are organising with criminalised and imprisoned Sudanese refugees. ---Support The Civil Fleet Podcast--- ko-fi.com/civilfleet ---Get in touch--- Twitter: @FleetCivil Mastodon: @civilfleet@kolektiva.social Bluesky: @thecivilfleet.bsky.social Instagram: thecivilfleet info@civilfleet.com civilfleet.com ---Show notes--- Don't know much about the conflict in Sudan? See this video from Al Jazeera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL0nz1ZeX_k For more on the EU's past links with the RSF, see here: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/19/what-is-europes-role-in-sudans-refugee-crisis And here: https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/europe-shouldnt-rely-upon-the-rsf-militia-on-immigration/ Here is the report Ben mentions called Border Control from Hell: data.unhcr.org/en/documents/details/55954 For more on UK arms sales to Sudan and reports that the RSF is using UK-made weapons, see this October 2025 report by the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/uk-military-equipment-rapid-support-forces-rsf-militia-accused-genocide-found-sudan-united-nations And read this response from Amnesty International UK: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-arms-licensing-system-indefensible-british-linked-weapons-used-sudan For more on Mataris Sudan Solidarity Committee, follow them on Intsa: mataris_ssc Follow 50 Out of Many on Instagram, too: 50outofmany Find Louise's court drawings on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/truuuuuuuuuuuuc/ For more The Civil Fleet Podcast episodes on Greece, see episodes 68, 60, 56, 53, 52, 50, 35, 34, 28, 26, 18, 9 and 4 In episode 35, we hear from Hanad Abdi Mohammad, a Somalian (not Ethiopian as Ben said in this episode!) refugee who was sentenced to 142 years behind bars in Greece for supposedly captaining a boat across the Aegean For more on the El Fasher massacre, read this Al Jazeera report: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/29/massacre-in-el-fasher-whats-happening-in-sudan-right-now For more on the Dublin Agreement, check out this explainer video by The Guardian newspaper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooecJWPcAY&t=28s&ab_channel=TheGuardian For more on Ireland's new family reunification rules, read this report in the Irish Times: https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/11/26/what-are-the-new-family-reunification-rules-for-migrant-workers/ Read Amnesty International's condemnation of the Greek government's decision to suspend asylum claims for people from North Africa in July 2025 here: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/07/greece-new-asylum-and-return-proposals-flagrantly-breach-international-law-and-punishes-people-seeking-protection/ For more on conditions in Greece's prisons, see this report by the Council of Europe Anti-Torture Committee: https://www.coe.int/en/web/cpt/-/council-of-europe-anti-torture-committee-cpt-returns-to-greece-for-high-level-talks-on-prison-reform And read about their 2019 visit here: https://www.coe.int/en/web/portal/-/greece-reforming-prison-system-and-ending-police-ill-treatment-are-urgent-priorities-says-cpt "The ultimate, hidden truth of the world is that it is something that we make, and could just as easily make differently," wrote the late, great David Graeber... Of course, Ben totally butchers this at the end of the episode.
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    • Episode 84: Doctors Without Borders returns to the Mediterranean
      Dec 9 2025

      In this episode, we speak with Juan Matias Gil, a search-and-rescue representative for Doctors Without Borders (MSF).

      He tells us how the Italian government made it impossible for the medical charity to use its Geo Barents rescue ship, and about the Oyvon — MSF's new, smaller, faster rescue vessel.

      He also tells us about the first rescue mission aboard the Oyvon.


      ---Support---

      ko-fi.com/civilfleet

      ---Get in touch---

      Twitter: @FleetCivil

      Mastodon: @civilfleet@kolektiva.social

      Bluesky: @thecivilfleet.bsky.social

      Instagram: thecivilfleet

      info@civilfleet.com

      civilfleet.com

      ---Show notes---

      For more on MSF, visit: msf.org.uk

      Follow MSF's rescue missions on Twitter here: @MSFSea

      For more on their former ship, the Geo Barents, see here: https://thecivilfleet.wordpress.com/tag/Geo-Barents

      AND, check out episode 14 of The Civil Fleet Podcast, with the ship's search-and-rescue team leader Riccardo Gatti and midwife Kira Smith

      For more on the Piantedosi Decree, listen to episodes 71 and 66

      Want to hear how an out-of-date carton of jam was one of the reasons why one of the Aita Mari rescue ship was blocked from leaving port? Listen to episode 12.

      OR, read this interview with Iñigo Mijangos, chairman of Humanitarian Maritime Rescue (SMH), teh charity which operates the Ait Mari: https://thecivilfleet.wordpress.com/2020/06/10/europe-will-continue-with-its-border-control-policies-and-we-will-continue-fighting-for-human-rights/

      For more on the Sea-Watch 4 being detained for having too many life-jackets, see here: https://thecivilfleet.wordpress.com/2020/09/20/europes-criminalisation-of-ngo-refugee-rescuers-reaches-another-peak-after-fifth-ship-detained-in-italy/

      For more on the EU's funding of the Libyan Coastguards despite knowing about its human rights abuses, see here: https://thecivilfleet.wordpress.com/2021/03/05/eu-urged-to-continue-support-for-libyan-coastguard-in-leaked-document/

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    • Episode 83: Britain and France's 'one-in-one-out' refugee deal
      Dec 3 2025

      In this episode, we speak with Diane Taylor, a journalist at the Guardian newspaper, about Britain's "one-in-one-out" deal with France, and about the British government's new, even harsher asylum-seeker policies.

      Diane also tells us about the refugees she spoke to in France recently after they were deported from Britain, and about a group of asylum-seekers who went on hunger strike in protest against their forced return trip across The Channel.

      ---Get in touch---

      Twitter: @FleetCivil

      Mastodon: @civilfleet@kolektiva.social

      Bluesky: @thecivilfleet.bsky.social

      Instagram: thecivilfleet

      info@civilfleet.com

      civilfleet.com

      --- Show notes ---

      Read more from Diane here: https://www.theguardian.com/profile/dianetaylor

      Here's a link to the opinion piece we spoke about in this episode: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/17/labour-asylum-plans-cruel-hype-old-policy-unachievable-promises

      Read 'No safe place to go': people sent back to France under 'one in, one out' deal tell of desperation, here: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2025/nov/18/people-sent-back-france-uk-one-in-one-out-scheme

      Read Diane's article about the hunger strike, here: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/26/asylum-seekers-uk-hunger-strike

      For more on the hunger strike, see here: https://www.biduk.org/articles/bid-joins-hunger-strikers-in-detention-in-calling-for-their-right-to-claim-asylum-in-the-uk

      For more on The Channel, the Illegal Immigration Act, the Nationality and Borders Act, the Rwanda Scheme, the Bibby Stockholm and more, see episodes 73, 62, 61, 57, 49, 44, 42, 39, 38, 32, 25, 21 and 17 of The Civil Fleet Podcast.

      See here to read about the fall in net migration in Britain
      https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2025/11/27/what-is-driving-the-current-fall-in-net-migration/

      Want to know more about the British government's latest plans to introduce ID cards? See here: https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/issue/digital-id-liberty-position/

      And here: https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/campaigns/no2digitalid/

      For more on Bosnia, see episodes 58, 59, and the bonus episode (which you can access on ko-fi.com/civilfleet)

      For more on No Name Kitchen, see episodes 59, 58, 51, 41, and 6

      For more on the Manston migrant detention centre, check out episode 32.

      For more on Lithuania and Poland, see episodes 78, 64, 52 and 33.

      See here for more on Humans for Rights Network: humansforrights.org

      For more on BiD (Bail for Immigration Detainees), see here: biduk.org

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