Join us for a conversation with Rev. Dr. Rose Lee-Norman, as we discuss what we’ve seen in Minneapolis up to the point of our recording on January 13, and then move into a conversation about white followership: what it is, why it’s important to de-center whiteness, and how this applies to understanding the Gospel.

00:00 - Introduction

01:56 - Patreon

02:29 - Current church response to ICE in Minneapolis

06:43 - Preparing the congregation for practical engagement

11:52 - Lessons from George Floyd for today

18:52 - Defining White followership

25:53 - Educating White people in multiethnic spaces

35:29 - White preferences affecting Gospel understanding

42:09 - Understanding power as Christians

45:41 - Differences between the classroom and the pulpit

51:51 - Engaging people who aren’t pursuing justice

56:54 - Additional resources

Find us online:

Website - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/

Instagram - @biblicaljusticeresources

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@biblicaljusticeresources

Patreon - https://patreon.com/BiblicalJusticeResources

Links:

Join the Resistance by Michelle Ferrigno Warren - https://www.ivpress.com/join-the-resistance

The Elusive Dream - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-elusive-dream-9780197604403

No Longer Strangers - https://www.ivpress.com/no-longer-strangers

Episode with Greg Coles - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2025/8/19/ep-12-what-we-say-and-how-we-say-it-with-dr-greg-coles

Might from the Margins - https://heraldpress.com/9781513806013/might-from-the-margins/

Episode with Dennis Edwards - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2025/11/18/ep-22-the-power-of-a-robust-gospel-with-rev-dr-dennis-r-edwards

ECC Antiracism Discipleship Pathway - https://covchurch.org/resource/antiracism-discipleship-pathway/

Be the Bridge groups - https://bethebridge.com/groups/

Sanctuary resource list - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/s/Sanctuary-justice-resources.pdf
The New Testament in Color - https://www.ivpress.com/the-new-testament-in-color

Join us for some thoughts on the events of the last week in Minnesota, and some historical context for the neighborhood where they happened.

Find us online:

Website - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/

Instagram - @biblicaljusticeresources

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@biblicaljusticeresources

Patreon - https://patreon.com/BiblicalJusticeResources

Links:

Ghost of a Chance podcast - https://lemonadamedia.com/show/ghost-of-a-chance/

Jim Crow of the North - https://youtu.be/XWQfDbbQv9E?si=XrjEA3yeMzZBk8wX

Redlining map laid over present-day road map - https://streets.mn/2016/10/24/map-monday-twin-cities-redlining-holc-map-1934/

Arthur and Edith Lee House/Housing Covenants PDF - https://transformmn.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Arthur-and-Edith-Lee-House-Housing-Covenants.pdf

Video on detained protestors’ experience - https://youtu.be/ZSGEgs2ItKg?si=gn_WanbTjx8qZy9H

Podcast episode with Dr. Danny Carroll - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/podcast-archive/2025/9/2/ep-14-migration-stories-and-the-bible-with-dr-danny-carroll

The Bible and Borders - https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587434457_the-bible-and-borders

World Relief advocate page - https://worldrelief.org/advocate/

World Relief teaching toolkit - https://worldrelief.org/church-hub/resources/

Evangelical Immigration Table resources - https://evangelicalimmigrationtable.com/resources/

The Stranger documentary - https://evangelicalimmigrationtable.com/the-stranger-film/

La Misma Luna/Under the Same Moon - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796307/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_under%2520the%2520same%2520moon

Join us as Dr. Christine Jeske discusses findings from her book Racial Justice for the Long Haul, including: he different ways individuals come to pursue racial justice; the characteristics and practices of people who remain committed to racial justice; and how we understand not just what we are called to do, but who we are called to be.

00:00 - Introduction

02:08 - Patreon

02:40 - Understanding anthropology

07:20 - Doing the research

12:35 - How do we recover from failure?

20:55 - Collisions, asking why, and responding to grace

37:43 - No one way to do racial justice

41:49 - Aspects of grace

46:33 - Hoping differently

52:03 - Finding the remnant

Find us online:

Website - https://www.biblicaljusticeresources.com/

Instagram - @biblicaljusticeresources

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@biblicaljusticeresources

Patreon - https://patreon.com/BiblicalJusticeResources

Links:

Racial Justice for the Long Haul - https://www.ivpress.com/racial-justice-for-the-long-haul