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That's What I Call Marketing

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Conor Byrne hosts That's What I Call Marketing meeting some of the most incredible marketing minds in our industry, CMO's, founders and marketing leaders from across the globe, this podcast tackles the big issues facing marketers today, as well as providing inspiration by hearing the incredible stories marketing leaders share of their journey to the top.

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Conor Byrne
Economie Marketing et ventes Réussite personnelle
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  • The Singles: The hot hits of May with Lucky Saint, Lego & Entertain or Die.
    May 11 2026

    The Singles is back with Tracksuit, taking some of the biggest marketing stories in culture right now and putting them under a bit more pressure using real brand data.

    Because the interesting part is rarely just the campaign itself. It is what the campaign reveals about the category, the audience, and the way brands are trying to grow.

    In this episode, Conor Byrne is joined by Ed Parkin and Bella Harrison from Tracksuit to explore three very different examples of brands using culture, entertainment, and timing to build relevance.


    Lucky Saint shows how alcohol-free beer has moved far beyond Dry January, using Lime Bikes, London culture, run clubs, and moderation trends to position itself as a year-round brand for active urban consumers.


    Lego demonstrates why it remains one of the most culturally flexible brands in the world, turning the FIFA World Cup into entertainment before a ball has even been kicked, while continuing to stretch beyond the toy category into fandom, collectibles, and adult audiences.


    The conversation then turns to the latest Entertain or Die Report, looking at why entertainment is increasingly becoming a commercial growth strategy rather than just a creative ambition.


    The episode also explores:

    • Why brands are now competing against Netflix, TikTok, creators, and sport for attention
    • The shift from “salesmanship” to “showmanship” in advertising
    • Why entertaining brands are outperforming commercially
    • What brands like Currys, Compare the Market, Guinness Zero, and Lego are getting right
    • How mental availability is built long before purchase moments happen

    If you want a deeper understanding of how entertainment, culture, and brand growth connect together, this episode is packed with practical examples and real-world data.


    Listen to Paul Feldwick on That's What I Call Marketing here:

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    Read the full Entertain or Die report:

    Entertain or Die Report


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    Timestamps:


    02:06 – Lucky Saint and the rise of moderation culture

    03:24 – Why Lucky Saint is so culturally aware

    05:05 – Lime Bikes, London culture, and timing

    07:08 – The functional drinks category shift

    08:45 – Alcohol-free beer becoming mainstream

    10:00 – Guinness Zero vs Lucky Saint

    11:18 – Winning locally before scaling nationally

    13:22 – Brand perception and category positioning

    15:00 – Lego and the FIFA World Cup campaign

    16:01 – Why Lego works across every demographic

    18:22 – Lego’s cultural timing advantage

    20:00 – Lego, fandom, and entertainment

    21:40 – World Cup advertising and brand competition

    22:15 – Entertain or Die explained

    24:00 – Why entertainment drives commercial growth

    25:35 – Future demand and entertainment

    26:17 – Gap hires a Chief Entertainment Officer

    27:09 – What makes brands entertaining

    29:00 – Brands that entertain us today

    31:00 – Why culture matters inside companies

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    34 min
  • S5Ep14:  Personalisation is just good prediction with CEO James Taylor
    May 5 2026

    We talk about personalisation as if it’s about the person. It isn’t. It’s about prediction.”

    That line sits at the centre of this conversation with James Taylor, CEO & Founder of A Particular Audience and once you hear it properly, it’s difficult to go back to how most marketing teams currently think about relevance. Because for years, personalisation has been framed as something close to one-to-one messaging. The idea that if we just had enough data, we could tailor every experience to the individual. It sounds right. It feels intuitive. And yet, in practice, it has largely disappointed.


    What James lays out here is a different way of understanding the problem.

    • Not who the customer is — but what they are doing.
    • Not static segments — but real-time signals.
    • Not demographics — but behaviour.


    Drawing on his experience building AI-driven recommendation systems used by global retailers, he explains how the most effective ecommerce experiences are not built around people, but around patterns. Around the relationships between products, actions, and intent. Around what millions of other customers have done before you, and what that makes likely next. This fundamentally changes how you think about websites, search, media, and even creativity.


    Along the way, the conversation explores why so many early personalisation efforts failed, how Amazon and Netflix approached the problem differently, and why most retailers are still playing catch-up despite having access to the same underlying data.

    There’s also a more grounded thread running through it — the reality of AI in practice. Not the version you see in product demos or LinkedIn posts, but the version that still requires constraints, rules, and human oversight. The version that gets things wrong. The version that can be incredibly powerful, but only when properly understood.

    For marketers, there’s a useful tension here, on one side, the promise of hyper-relevance and automation, on the other, the discipline required to make it actually work.


    This episode sits right in that space.

    ⏱️ Key Moments:

    00:00 – Why “you are not your demographic” changes everything

    02:15 – From investment banking to building AI products

    08:00 – The real meaning of personalisation (and why it’s been misunderstood)

    12:30 – Behaviour vs demographics: what actually drives relevance

    18:00 – Building a recommendation engine from scratch

    26:00 – Why most retailers still lag behind Amazon

    30:00 – How AI is changing marketing teams

    34:00 – The limits of AI (and why rules still matter)

    36:30 – “Personalisation is just good prediction”

    What you’ll take from this episode:

    • Why most personalisation strategies fail to deliver
    • How recommendation systems actually work in ecommerce
    • The difference between explicit and implicit customer signals
    • Why demographics are often a poor proxy for behaviour
    • How AI should (and shouldn’t) be used in marketing today
    • What marketers need to rethink about relevance and experience design


    Brought to you by Tracksuit

    Tracksuit is the always-on brand tracking platform helping marketers understand brand health, measure impact, and make better decisions over time.

    👉 https://gotracksuit.com

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    39 min
  • S5Ep13: Christmas in April with Pete Markey & Leanne Tomasevic powered by Electric Twin
    Apr 27 2026

    How Brands Should Really Be Planning Christmas Campaigns

    What happens when you start planning Christmas… in April?

    In this episode of That’s What I Call Marketing, Conor Byrne is joined by Pete Markey (former CMO of Boots, Marketing Week Marketer of the Year) and Leanne Tomasevic (Insights Lead at Electric Twin) to explore how brands should approach Christmas advertising — using real-time synthetic audience insights.

    Instead of guessing what consumers want, this episode puts Electric Twin’s platform to the test live, revealing how marketers can simulate audience reactions, test ideas, and sharpen creative briefs months before campaigns go live.

    The result is a grounded, practical look at:

    • What people actually want from Christmas ads in 2026
    • Why emotional storytelling still matters (but needs reframing)
    • The role of celebrities, music, and consistency
    • How to balance commercial pressure with authenticity
    • And how AI-driven research can speed up better decisions

    If you’re working on a Christmas campaign, brand strategy, or creative development, this is a genuinely useful watch.

    ⏱️ Timestamps

    00:00 – The reality of planning Christmas in April

    01:10 – What Electric Twin actually does (synthetic audiences explained)

    03:00 – Why speed matters in modern marketing decision-making

    05:30 – Live demo: Understanding the mood of the nation at Christmas

    08:30 – What consumers really want this year (family, realism, restraint)

    12:00 – Gifting trends: practicality vs meaningful connection

    14:30 – The balance between storytelling and selling

    16:00 – What people want from Christmas ads now

    18:00 – Should brands use celebrities? (and when it works)

    21:00 – The role of consistency (Kevin the Carrot, John Lewis, Coca-Cola)

    24:00 – Realism vs escapism in Christmas creative

    27:00 – How agencies can use this to build stronger briefs

    29:00 – The most memorable Christmas ads and why they last

    32:00 – Should brands reuse ads instead of making new ones?

    33:00 – Why music is critical to Christmas advertising effectiveness

    35:30 – Final thoughts: faster insight, better decisions

    🎯 Key Takeaways
    • Christmas advertising isn’t about excess — it’s about connection under constraint
    • Consumers want authenticity, not performance
    • Creative effectiveness improves when insight is iterative, not static
    • Consistency often beats novelty in building long-term brand memory
    • AI isn’t replacing research — it’s changing how quickly you can think
    🔗 Links & Resources
    • Learn more about Electric Twin: https://electrictwin.com
    • Listen to more episodes: That’s What I Call Marketing
    • Previous episode with Dr. Ben Warner (Synthetic Research deep dive)
    🎙️ About the Podcast

    That’s What I Call Marketing features conversations with leading marketers, CMOs, and industry thinkers — focused on how marketing actually works in practice.

    If you’re working on Christmas 2026 right now, get in touch with Electric Twin







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    38 min
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