Matt is joined again by Canadian 2:09 marathoner Tom Nobbs to break down the Boston Marathon, Canadian distance running, post-marathon recovery, and Tom's build toward the Ottawa 10K.

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Matt and Tom open the episode by discussing the Boston Marathon broadcast, including the improved leaderboard, live tracking, and commentary, while also noting the challenges of covering a marathon live with long gaps, tactical changes, and commercial breaks.

They then break down the Canadian performances in Boston, including Rory Linkletter's outstanding 2:06:04 PB, Ben Preisner running around 2:11 while managing injury issues, and Jacob Thompson breaking 2:10. Matt and Tom also debate whether fast Boston times should be treated as "true" PBs when conditions, tailwind, and course profile play such a major role.

The conversation shifts into post-marathon recovery, including disrupted sleep, nervous system stress, and the importance of getting carbohydrates and protein in quickly after a race. Tom also shares his own recovery approach, including carbs, protein, creatine, and ketones.

From there, Tom outlines his preparation for the Ottawa road 10K, where he is aiming to improve his 28:58 PB and push toward sub-28:30. He and Matt discuss high-volume double-threshold training, hill reps, long-run structure, time-based training versus mileage chasing, and why 10K speed can set the ceiling for marathon performance.

Later in the episode, they talk about filming YouTube training content, using video as accountability, sponsorship considerations, and wider Boston takeaways including high carbohydrate intakes, half marathon fitness as a predictor, tailwind and air-resistance effects, and the role of supershoes on Boston's downhill sections.

Timestamps:
00:00 - Boston Marathon Broadcast
01:02 - Commentary and Coverage
01:35 - Rory Linkletter Breakdown
04:04 - Rory Podcast and PBs
04:34 - Post Marathon Sleep Issues
06:43 - Recovery Fueling Tips
09:29 - Four Part Recovery Stack
11:37 - Ottawa 10K Plans
13:56 - VDOT and Speed Gaps
16:33 - Mile Time Debate
17:44 - 10K Training Block
21:01 - Mileage Versus Time
24:00 - Long Run Strategy
26:40 - Hill Sprints Breakdown
29:55 - Tempo Plus Sprints Logic
30:57 - Strava Transparency
31:20 - Launching YouTube Content
33:21 - Filming As Accountability
34:55 - Elite Running Video Styles
37:17 - Sponsors And Brand Value
40:47 - Boston Takeaways Framework
41:15 - 10K Speed Sets Ceiling
43:52 - Fueling And Carb Limits
47:00 - Half Marathon Predictors
49:26 - Wind And Course Effects
51:48 - Supershoes On Boston
54:14 - Wrap Up And Final Notes

Matt and Mick break down the London Marathon chaos, training consistency, and the reality behind elite and everyday running.

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Matt Fox (2:18 marathoner) and Mick Fox (2:19 marathoner) talk through the idea of filming a "day in the life" series to show how everyday runners, especially parents, can still train at a high level and improve their marathons. They then dive into the London Marathon, breaking down the shock of two men going under two hours and multiple athletes dipping under the previous world record, while many sub-2:20 runners struggled late in tough conditions. They unpack how weather, pacing, and race dynamics can completely shift outcomes across the field.

They also analyze the women's race and the context around women-only world records, before getting into prize money, sponsorship dynamics, and how negotiations can shape race execution. The conversation moves into broader topics like influencer narratives around heart rate training and fueling, questioning what's real versus what's being pushed, while highlighting standout performances including Ireland's Peter Lynch running 2:06:08 for a national record and Vinny Morey's surprise 2:05:54 debut at Glass City. They finish by pointing listeners toward a more training-focused companion episode.

CHAPTERS

00:00 - Podcast Return
00:17 - Family Filming Chaos
00:48 - Everyday Runner Series
02:01 - London Marathon Shockwaves
02:59 - Weather And Midpack Struggles
05:14 - Women Race And Records
07:26 - Prize Money And Sponsorships
09:30 - Is London Really Fast
13:18 - Sub Two Reaction Stories
16:23 - Disneyland Race Tracking
21:27 - British Champs Breakdown
25:01 - Sam Griffiths Spotlight
27:04 - Heart Rate Racing Debate
28:28 - Influencer Honesty Debate
30:27 - Heart Rate Pacing Skepticism
31:31 - Brands and Authenticity
34:21 - Influencer Obligations Pre Race
36:32 - Peter Lynch Irish Record
38:28 - Why Irish Athletes Overlooked
43:31 - Progress and Tech Arguments
49:21 - Vinny Morey Surprise 205
54:50 - Wrap Up and Next Episode

Matt and Kyle recap the Boston Marathon, discussing standout performances, strong Australian results, and how favorable tailwinds can make Boston far faster than many expect despite the course profile. They break down race execution, fast early splits, and why Boston can sometimes race more like a flat fast marathon than people assume.

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The conversation then shifts to Kyle's Gold Coast Marathon build, balancing fatherhood and full-time physiotherapy work while preparing for a strong marathon performance. They discuss recent 10K racing as a turning point for confidence and fitness, current weekly mileage, a key 4 x 2K workout, and how shorter races can be used as valuable marathon build checkpoints without needing to be in PB shape.

They also cover influencer culture versus elite running performance, tall poppy syndrome, and why attention and actual results often do not align. Kyle explains how to manage niggles, when to seek professional help, and applies that thinking to Matt's calf issue during his return from a sacral stress fracture. The episode finishes with thoughts on doubles versus singles, training cycles beyond the traditional seven-day week, group training benefits, and why learning how to race matters just as much as fitness itself.

Timestamps:

00:00 Boston Marathon Recap
02:50 Tailwinds and Fast Times
04:04 Gold Coast Training Update
07:37 Balancing Kids and Mileage
10:06 Recent Workouts and 10K Plans
12:28 Influencers vs Elite Runners
18:50 Handling Niggles and Injury Risk
24:19 Return to Running Philosophy
27:37 Calf Strain Check In
29:24 Hiking And Fatigue Risks
30:09 Doubles Versus Singles
33:57 Easy Run Time Limits
37:04 Beyond The Seven Day Week
40:39 Group Training Versus Solo
43:38 Racing Without PB Pressure
49:59 Short Races In Marathon Builds
53:09 Wrap Up And Next Episode