How do you actually know when God is speaking?

Pam shares her personal story of walking with God through family dysfunction, deep loss, and healing, and how those experiences taught her to depend on the Holy Spirit's guidance.

Together Heidi and Pam explore four levels of listening—listening to, listening for, listening with, and listening in—and how these help believers grow in discerning God's voice in everyday life.

In this conversation you'll learn:

• How to recognize God's voice vs. your own thoughts
• How to identify the enemy's accusations and lies
• Why slowing down and listening before reacting matters spiritually
• How to test prophetic words and spiritual impressions
• Practical ways to grow in hearing God more clearly

Pam also leads listeners through a simple listening exercise and closes the episode by praying for those who want to grow in discerning God's voice.

John 10:27
"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me."

Pam's website: Blueprintlife.com

Pam's book: https://www.amazon.com/Listen-hearing-vs-listening-God-Help-ebook/dp/B0DMZNDDQB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=225SUO0T93X8T&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6qRHbNDZcbbdwyV01QtBlg.X1n2hzWzcBcYuaOkzq1uj4r6sGsgIk5roSagfxaGo_I&dib_tag=se&keywords=pamela+mertz+listen+in&qid=1773573926&sprefix=pamela+mertz+listen+in%2Caps%2C131&sr=8-1

Find more about Heidi: www.heidimortensonlmft.com

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What do you do when the Church feels unstable?

When ministries you respected face exposure…
When leadership disappoints you…
When questions shake what once felt certain…

In this honest and pastoral episode, Heidi Mortenson speaks directly to the sheep — not just about leaders, but about how to stay rooted in God when confusion rises.

This conversation explores how to discern without becoming cynical, how to separate Jesus from human systems, and how to mature spiritually without losing tenderness. Heidi reflects on governance gaps and leadership responsibility, but the deeper focus is this:

How do believers find God again — personally, quietly, safely — when trust has been disrupted?

If you're feeling disoriented, disillusioned, or unsure what to believe, this episode offers grounding, humility, and hope.

Your faith was never meant to rest on personalities.
It rests on Christ.

"When my heart is overwhelmed, lead me to the Rock that is higher than I."
— Psalm 61:2

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