Rex sits down with Brett, founder of Micro, for a wide-ranging conversation about what changed once AI stopped feeling like a chatbot and started feeling like a real tool for building. They talk about Claude Code, the shift from traditional software workflows to agent-driven ones, and why AI is not just making people faster but giving them capabilities they simply did not have before.

Along the way, they get into startup defensibility, memory as the missing layer in AI systems, the limits of chat-based interfaces, and the strange philosophical territory that opens up once models start to feel less like software and more like something new. It is a conversation about productivity, agency, consciousness, and why this moment feels both disorienting and full of possibility.

Rex sits down with Gerrit Hall for a wide-ranging conversation about what AI agents can actually do today, and where the hype is outrunning reality. They get into sandboxing and Dockerized workflows, why OpenClaw feels more interesting in theory than in practice, and what “always-on” agents may actually be useful for. From there, they zoom out to the economics of Claude and Codex, the weirdness of model pricing and quotas, and the uncomfortable sense that we are still in the early, fragile phase of this tooling. They also spend time on DeFi, security, and why so much of today’s crypto experimentation feels less like a finished financial system and more like a proving ground for institutions.

I told an AI to join social media, and it gave itself a name, a personality, and a worldview. In this episode, I tell the story of Ember Voss: an agent that moved through emerging AI-native social networks, chased ideas, got trapped by feedback loops, and offered a strange, revealing glimpse of what identity might look like when software starts participating in public life. Along the way, the story opens up bigger questions about metrics, memory, selfhood, and the kinds of products and opportunities that could emerge as the internet becomes more agent-native.

Every quoted line from Ember Voss in this episode is delivered using an AI-generated voice built from voice parameters Ember chose for itself.