In this episode of Shoulders Down, Leah sits down with Karly Borden, founder of The Public Run Club, to explore what it really looks like to rebuild a relationship with running after disordered eating.

Karly shares her personal story of navigating eating disorder recovery and the often-overlooked challenge of returning to exercise in a way that feels safe, grounded, and self-trust-driven. Together, they unpack the tension between discipline and intuition, and why so many people feel stuck in the “murky middle” of movement — not fully disordered, but not fully free either.

Leah and Karly also dive into Karly’s Intuitive Athlete Cycle, a powerful framework for approaching movement in a sustainable, non-extractive way that honors the body’s natural rhythms rather than forcing constant progress.

You’ll hear about:

• Karly’s personal journey with running, disordered eating, and recovery
• Why movement is often the missing piece in eating disorder recovery
• The difference between extractive vs. regenerative movement
• How to approach fitness goals without slipping into disordered patterns
• Karly’s Intuitive Athlete Cycle and how it supports sustainable movement
• Practical tools for tuning into your body before, during, and after exercise

Mentioned in the Episode:

• 🎢 My Story (unfiltered, the whole saga)
• 🏃‍♀️ Disordered Eating in the Running Community with Serena Marie

More from Karly:

• Website: https://www.thepublicrunclub.com
• Instagram: @thepublicrunclub
• Kind and Consistent Jump Start Waitlist: https://thepublicrunclub.com/kcjs

More From Leah:

• 📚Download your free Intuitive Eating Starter Pack
• Apply to The Embodied Method, my 1:1 coaching program
• Join my self-paced course, The Return
• Subscribe to Leah's Youtube Channel
• Subscribe to my personal Substack
• Follow me on Instagram for more intuitive eating content @leahkern.rd
• Visit my website to learn more about my coaching offerings
• Subscribe to my weekly newsletter to get a nugget of intuitive eating inspiration delivered straight from my heart to your inbox each week.
• Send me a voice message on Speakpipe
• Email me: Leah@leahkernrd.com

📚 Sources 📚

• On the body as a site of self-trust: Inspired by Caldwell, C., & Leighton, L. B. (Eds.). (2018). Oppression and the Body: Roots, Resistance, and Resolutions. North Atlantic Books.
• On the hypothetical gaze, body-object, and eating disorders emerging in puberty: McBride, H. L. (2019). “Embodiment and Body Image: Relating and Exploring Constructs.” In H. L. McBride & J. L. Kwee (Eds.), Embodiment and Eating Disorders: Theory, Research, Prevention and Treatment. Routledge.

In this episode of Shoulders Down, Leah sits down with certified eating disorder specialist Sydney Greene, to explore the overlap between disordered eating and substance use.

Sydney shares her personal story of growing up around addiction, developing orthorexia, and later navigating sobriety — only to find her compulsive behaviors shifting toward exercise, clean eating, and wellness. Leah and Sydney unpack how addiction and disordered eating often co-occur, why recovery isn’t always linear, and how socially praised behaviors can mask deeper struggles.

Together, they discuss the concept of transfer addiction, how one compulsive behavior can replace another, and why healing requires addressing the underlying unmet needs — not just the behavior itself.

⚠️ Content Warning ⚠️

This episode includes discussion of substance use, addiction, suicidal thoughts, and grief. Listener discretion is advised.

You’ll hear about:

• Sydney’s personal story with substance use and disordered eating
• What “transfer addiction” means and how it shows up in recovery
• Why sobriety can sometimes intensify disordered eating behaviors
• Why intuitive eating may not be appropriate early in addiction recovery
• The overlap between orthorexia, compulsive exercise, and addiction

Mentioned in this episode:

• 🥗 Orthorexia: When “Healthy" Eating Becomes Dangerous
• 🧗‍♀️Wellness Culture in Mountain Towns with Katie Campbell
• 🥛 Proteinification, Pilates, Glucose Monitors & The Wellness Trends That Shaped 2025
• 💰Are You Binge Spending? Where Budget Culture Meets Diet Culture with Rachel Duncan

More From Sydney

• Website: sydneygreenehealth.com
• Instagram: @greenehealth

More From Leah:

• 📚Download your free Intuitive Eating Starter Pack
• Apply to The Embodied Method, my 1:1 coaching program
• Join my self-paced course, The Return
• Subscribe to Leah's Youtube Channel
• Subscribe to my personal Substack
• Follow me on Instagram for more intuitive eating content @leahkern.rd
• Visit my website to learn more about my coaching offerings
• Subscribe to my weekly newsletter to get a nugget of intuitive eating inspiration delivered straight from my heart to your inbox each week.
• Send me a voice message on Speakpipe
• Email me: Leah@leahkernrd.com

In this episode of Shoulders Down, Leah sits down with plus-size style expert and reality TV producer Marcy Guevara-Prete to reflect on their experience participating in a viral Jubilee debate with fitness personality Jillian Michaels.

Leah and Marcy unpack what it was like to engage in a highly charged, public conversation about body positivity, health, and weight — and how lived experience, media framing, and personal values shaped their perspectives in the moment and afterward.

Marcy shares her journey from lifelong dieting to body acceptance and fat liberation, her nuanced perspective on health and movement, and the unexpected ways the debate impacted her own relationship with her body.

⚠️ Content Warning ⚠️

This episode includes discussion of weight stigma, diet culture, disordered eating, trauma, and intentional weight loss. It also includes nuanced and potentially conflicting perspectives on body positivity and health that may feel activating for some listeners. Please listen with care and take what serves you.

You’ll hear about:

• What it was like to participate in the Jubilee debate with Jillian Michaels
• How reality-style media formats shape conversations about body and health
• The role of lived experience vs. scientific “evidence” in discussions of weight
• Why shame, fear, and guilt are not sustainable motivators for change
• The tension between diet culture and finding a personal middle ground

Mentioned in this Episode:

• Surrounded Debate with Jillian Michaels (watch with caution)
• Is Body Positivity Disempowering? Follow-up ft Jillian Michaels and Marcy (watch with caution)
• 🍫 Can You Be Addicted To Food?
• 🌙 Fat & Beautiful: Unpacking Thin Privilege & Anti-Fat Bias with Debbie Saroufim
• National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance (NAAFA)

More From Marcy:

• Instagram: @themarcyminute
• Website: http://www.marcyguevara.com/
• Boutique: Perfect 10 Plus (Los Angeles)
• Mobile Boutique: The Plus Bus

More From Leah:

• 📚Download your free Intuitive Eating Starter Pack
• Apply to The Embodied Method, my 1:1 coaching program
• Join my self-paced course, The Return
• Subscribe to Leah's Youtube Channel
• Subscribe to my personal Substack
• Follow me on Instagram for more intuitive eating content @leahkern.rd
• Visit my website to learn more about my coaching offerings
• Subscribe to my weekly newsletter to get a nugget of intuitive eating inspiration delivered straight from my heart to your inbox each week.
• Send me a voice message on Speakpipe
• Email me: Leah@leahkernrd.com