Episodes

  • Malcolm Barrett & Eric Dean Seaton

    Malcolm Barrett & Eric Dean Seaton
    11 Nov 2026
    On this episode of On That Note, Shawn Stockman sits down with Malcolm Barrett (aka Mookie) and Eric Dean Seaton to talk about their work on the hit series Average Joe, the show’s unexpected twists, and the creative vision behind one of television’s most unpredictable crime comedies. Best known for his role as Leon Montgomery, Malcolm Barrett opens up about bringing the character to life, Leon’s evolution throughout the series, and the complicated friendships, relationships, and dangerous situations that make Average Joe so entertaining. He also discusses working alongside Deon Cole, Cynthia McWilliams, and the rest of the cast, and what makes the chemistry between the characters so special. Director and executive producer Eric Dean Seaton takes us behind the camera, sharing the inspiration behind the show’s unique visual style, the real-life story that helped inspire Average Joe, and his vision for portraying a darker, more grounded story centered around a Black family in Pittsburgh. He also discusses taking the series to Cape Town, South Africa, for Season 2 and why he wanted to challenge the traditional expectations of Black comedy on television. Beyond Average Joe, Shawn takes the conversation back in time with stories about growing up in Cleveland, Ohio, the legendary Cleveland dance tradition surrounding Kraftwerk’s “Trans-Europe Express,” early hip-hop culture, and the East Coast vs. West Coast rap rivalry. The guys also get into the legendary Biggie vs. Tupac era and the evolution of rap beefs leading up to today’s hip-hop landscape. From behind-the-scenes television stories and unforgettable characters to music, culture, and the experiences that shaped their careers, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss. Subscribe to On That Note for more conversations with the artists, entertainers, and creative minds shaping music and entertainment. #OnThatNote #ShawnStockman #MalcolmBarrett #EricDeanSeaton #AverageJoe #DeonCole #Television #Entertainment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 58 min
  • Kirk Franklin

    Kirk Franklin
    3 Nov 2026
    Gospel music legend Kirk Franklin joins Shawn Stockman of Boyz II Men for an unforgettable conversation on On That Note, discussing his groundbreaking influence on gospel music, the connection between the church and modern R&B, his unexpected collaboration with GloRilla, and the evolution of the music industry. With more than three decades in music, Kirk Franklin has consistently pushed boundaries by blending gospel, hip-hop, and R&B to create a sound that changed the landscape of contemporary gospel music. Kirk opens up about the inspiration behind his musical approach, why the Black church played such an important role in shaping generations of legendary artists, and how that foundation helped influence some of the biggest names in R&B. Shawn and Kirk take a deep dive into the relationship between gospel and mainstream music, discussing artists like Pharrell Williams, Timbaland, Jermaine Dupri, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Justin Timberlake, Teddy Riley, and Rodney Jerkins, and why Kirk believes the industry’s connection to its musical roots has changed. The conversation also explores the cultural importance of the Black church, the loss of platforms like BET’s Bobby Jones Gospel, the impact of Sunday Best, and why today’s emerging artists may be missing the traditional experiences that helped develop legendary performers. Kirk gets candid about faith, vulnerability, personal imperfections, and the disconnect between younger generations and church leadership. He also shares the story behind working with GloRilla, their connection through gospel music, and the creative process behind bringing different musical worlds together. Plus, Kirk explains why he writes his gospel songs at the piano instead of writing to pre-existing production, and why the message and emotion behind a song will always come before the beat. It’s an honest, funny, and thought-provoking conversation between two longtime friends and musical pioneers. CHAPTERS & TOPICS INCLUDE: Kirk Franklin’s three-decade impact on gospel music Blending gospel, hip-hop, and R&B The Black church’s influence on modern R&B Pharrell Williams, Timbaland, Jermaine Dupri & the church connection Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Aretha Franklin & generations of church-raised artists The importance of BET, Bobby Jones Gospel & Sunday Best Kirk Franklin on faith, vulnerability, and imperfect leadership His unexpected musical collaboration with GloRilla The inspiration and creative process behind his music Why the message matters more than the production Subscribe to On That Note for more conversations about music, culture, creativity, and the stories behind the artists who shape the industry. Hosted by Shawn Stockman of Boyz II Men. #KirkFranklin #ShawnStockman #OnThatNote #GospelMusic #GloRilla #BoyzIIMen #RnB #HipHop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 51 min
  • John Legend

    John Legend
    28 Oct 2026
    Join Shawn Stockman of Boyz II Men for an unforgettable conversation with John Legend on On That Note, the podcast where music connects us all. In this episode, the EGOT-winning singer, songwriter, pianist, and producer sits down with Shawn to discuss his incredible musical journey, the creative vision behind his upcoming album MUSE, and his collaboration with legendary producer Pharrell Williams. John opens up about how the two joined forces to create MUSE, blending modern hip-hop production with timeless musical influences from Marvin Gaye, Nina Simone, and Nat King Cole. He breaks down the importance of artistic chemistry, working with one producer to create a cohesive album, and how Pharrell’s distinctive production style helped them create something new for both artists. Shawn and John also dive into John’s early musical roots, growing up in a Pentecostal church in Springfield, Ohio, and how gospel music shaped his musicianship. From learning piano by ear to developing the skills that would define his career, John explains why musical fundamentals, live performance, and artistic discipline still matter in today’s music industry. The conversation also explores John’s experiences working with Kanye West and G.O.O.D. Music, the relationship between music and fashion, the art of creative direction, and the difference between having a viral hit and building a lasting career. From the stories behind Get Lifted, Ordinary People, and All of Me to the creative process behind his latest work, this episode is a must-watch for music lovers, aspiring artists, producers, and anyone interested in what it takes to make music that stands the test of time. 🎙️ IN THIS EPISODE: John Legend’s new album MUSE and his collaboration with Pharrell Williams The making of Daylight and the creative vision behind MUSE Working with Pharrell Williams vs. Kanye West How gospel music and the church shaped John’s musical foundation Why musicianship, live performance, and musical discipline matter The legacy of Get Lifted, Ordinary People, and All of Me The connection between music, fashion, and visual storytelling Building a sustainable music career beyond viral hits Creating timeless music in an ever-changing industry If you love conversations about R&B, songwriting, music production, and the stories behind the artists who shape our culture, you’re in the right place. 👍 LIKE this video if you’re a fan of John Legend, SUBSCRIBE to On That Note for more conversations with legendary artists, and COMMENT below: What is your favorite John Legend song? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 51 min
  • Kenny Lattimore

    Kenny Lattimore
    21 Oct 2026
    On this episode of On That Note, Boyz II Men legend Shawn Stockman sits down with Grammy-nominated R&B singer, songwriter, and soul crooner Kenny Lattimore for an in-depth conversation about timeless R&B, legendary vocals, the power of love songs, and what it takes to build a lasting music career. From the smooth sounds of “Never Too Busy” to the unforgettable wedding anthem “For You,” Kenny Lattimore reflects on the records that defined his career, the stories behind his music, and how he created a signature sound rooted in romance, sincerity, and musical excellence. 🎙️ IN THIS EPISODE: 🎵 The Story Behind “For You” — Kenny opens up about the making of one of R&B’s most beloved love songs, the songwriting of his longtime friend Kenny Lerum, and how the record became a soundtrack for weddings, anniversaries, and lifelong love. 🎶 The Golden Era of ’90s R&B — Shawn and Kenny take a trip back to an era defined by distinctive voices and unforgettable music, discussing artists like Maxwell, D’Angelo, Eric Benét, Brian McKnight, and Joe. 🎤 Finding His Own Sound — Kenny discusses his journey from Washington, D.C., and Howard University to becoming a solo R&B artist, navigating music industry expectations, and staying true to his musical identity. 🎼 The Art of Being a Great Singer — Get an inside look at vocal technique, classical training, stage performance, protecting the voice, and the discipline required to deliver great performances night after night. Kenny also reflects on lessons from legendary vocal instructor Dr. Leroy Dorsey and the influence of great singers across gospel, jazz, and classical music. 🙏 Gospel, Faith & Musical Identity — Kenny shares how his gospel roots shaped his artistic vision and helped him navigate the line between sacred and secular music while remaining authentic to himself. 💿 Building a Legacy Beyond the Hits — From his early success with “Never Too Busy” and the Grammy-nominated “For You” to launching Sincere Soul Records and continuing to release new music, Kenny explains what longevity, growth, and independence mean to him. ❤️ Love, Life & the Power of Music — Shawn and Kenny go beyond the headlines to discuss vulnerability in songwriting, the importance of meaningful lyrics, personal growth, and why authentic music continues to connect generations. And because no conversation about R&B would be complete without celebrating the music itself, stay tuned for a special moment as Shawn Stockman and Kenny Lattimore revisit the timeless magic of “For You.” If you love classic R&B, ’90s soul, legendary vocalists, unforgettable love songs, and conversations with the artists who helped shape the soundtrack of our lives, this episode is for you. 👇 JOIN THE CONVERSATION What Kenny Lattimore song means the most to you? Is it “For You,” “Never Too Busy,” or another favorite? Drop your answer in the comments! 👍 Like this video, subscribe to On That Note, and turn on notifications for more candid conversations with legendary musicians, iconic voices, and the artists who continue to shape the sound of music. Hosted by Shawn Stockman of Boyz II Men, On That Note celebrates the stories, artistry, and experiences behind the music we love. #KennyLattimore #ShawnStockman #OnThatNote #BoyzIIMen #RnB #90sRnB #ForYou #NeverTooBusy #SoulMusic #RNBMusic Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 37 min
  • Jay Pharoah

    Jay Pharoah
    14 Oct 2026
    Jay Pharoah Joins Shawn Stockman on On That Note! 🎤🔥 Comedian, actor, rapper, and master impressionist Jay Pharoah sits down with Shawn Stockman of Boyz II Men for an unforgettable episode of On That Note, diving into his journey from a kid in Chesapeake, Virginia, to becoming one of the most recognizable impressionists in entertainment. Best known for his six-season run on Saturday Night Live (SNL), Jay opens up about his journey to landing the career-changing opportunity, working toward his dream without a clear blueprint, and the determination it took to break into the industry. From his early days performing stand-up comedy to building a career across television, film, and music, Jay reveals the story behind the talent audiences know and love. But there’s much more to Jay Pharoah than his celebrity impressions! 🎭 IN THIS EPISODE: * Jay Pharoah’s Saturday Night Live Journey: How he landed his SNL audition at just 22 years old and got the call from legendary producer Lorne Michaels. * Celebrity Impressions & Comedy: Jay breaks down his approach to mastering voices, expressions, cadence, and mannerisms while delivering hilarious impressions of Denzel Washington, Barack Obama, Jay-Z, Eddie Murphy, Kevin Hart, Chris Rock, Steve Harvey, and more. * From Stand-Up Comedy to Hollywood: The experiences, sacrifices, and persistence that helped Jay turn his talent into a lasting entertainment career. * The Music Behind the Comedian: Jay discusses his lifelong passion for hip-hop, his songwriting process, and his latest music project, The Odyssey. * Jay Pharoah the Rapper: Shawn Stockman shares his reaction to Jay’s music and the versatility behind his sound, storytelling, flows, and different musical styles. * The Power of Music & Personal Growth: Jay opens up about how writing music helped him navigate difficult moments in his life and stay connected to his creative purpose. * Hollywood, Hip-Hop & Entertainment: The conversation touches on Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Donald Glover, the evolution of hip-hop, and the connection between music and comedy. And of course, Shawn couldn’t let Jay leave without putting those legendary impressions to the test! The episode features a hilarious impression speed round, spontaneous character work, and an unexpected musical moment as Shawn Stockman and Jay Pharoah connect through music. From comedy and celebrity impressions to hip-hop, personal struggles, ambition, and artistic evolution, this episode goes beyond the laughs to reveal the man behind the many voices. Watch until the end for Jay’s rapid-fire celebrity impressions and a special musical moment with Shawn Stockman that brings On That Note full circle. 👇 JOIN THE CONVERSATION Which Jay Pharoah impression is your favorite? And did you know he could rap like this? Let us know in the comments! 👍 Like this video, subscribe to the On That Note YouTube channel, and turn on notifications for more conversations with the artists, entertainers, and cultural voices shaping music and entertainment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 45 min
  • Tommy Davidson

    Tommy Davidson
    7 Oct 2026
    #sponsored Artist: Visit Tidal.com/ONTHATNOTE to create an account and start uploading your music for free. #ad Music Fan: Find your next favorite artist at Tidal.com/ONTHATNOTE. #ad Tommy Davidson joins Shawn Stockman for a powerful and hilarious conversation on a new episode of On That Note. A legendary comedian, actor, impressionist, voice artist and original cast member of In Living Color, Tommy Davidson takes us behind the scenes of one of the most influential comedy shows in television history. Tommy reflects on working alongside Keenen Ivory Wayans, Jim Carrey, Damon Wayans, Jamie Foxx, David Alan Grier and the Wayans family, and explains what made In Living Color such a groundbreaking force in comedy and Black entertainment. Tommy and Shawn also revisit the 1990s era of R&B and entertainment, discussing the incredible cultural moment that included Boyz II Men, Jodeci, Riff, Silk, Shai, SWV, TLC, Brownstone, Hi-Five and other legendary groups. The conversation explores the connection between music and comedy during that era and the impact those artists had on an entire generation. The conversation takes a deeper turn as Tommy opens up about his extraordinary childhood and the circumstances surrounding his adoption. He shares the story of being abandoned as a baby in Mississippi, being rescued and adopted, growing up in Colorado and Wyoming, and eventually discovering his identity, his connection to Black culture and his passion for music and performance. The two longtime friends revisit Tommy’s iconic Varnell Hill character from Martin and the incredible full-circle moment of bringing that character back more than 30 years later. Tommy discusses The Varnell Hill Show, his work as an executive producer alongside Martin Lawrence, and what it means to reinvent a character that audiences never forgot. Tommy also discusses his film and television career, including Strictly Business, Booty Call, Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls, Bamboozled and his voice role as Oscar Proud on Disney’s The Proud Family. From In Living Color and Martin to his new chapter with Varnell Hill, this is a conversation about comedy, music, Hollywood, survival, longevity, friendship, reinvention and the power of staying true to your gift. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 57 min
  • Tisha Campbell

    Tisha Campbell
    30 Sep 2026
    Tisha Campbell joins Shawn Stockman for a powerful and deeply personal episode of On That Note, reflecting on her legendary career in television, film, music, comedy, motherhood, and the journey of finally unmasking who she really is. From her unforgettable roles as Gina Waters on Martin, Sydney in House Party, Yvonne in Boomerang, and Jay Kyle on My Wife and Kids, Tisha looks back at the moments that helped define her career and the cultural impact of Martin. She shares behind-the-scenes stories about working with Martin Lawrence, Tichina Arnold, Carl Anthony Payne II, Tommy Ford, Damon Wayans, Eddie Murphy, Robin Givens, Regina Hall, and the cast of Boomerang and House Party. Tisha also opens up about her journey as a singer and R&B artist, including her time with Capitol Records, her music career during the height of Martin, and her song “Push.” She explains why she struggled to fully embrace her music career at the time and how acting ultimately became the path she believed could help her family. The conversation takes an even more personal turn as Tisha discusses her childhood growing up in Newark, New Jersey, her family’s gospel music background, her mother and aunts singing alongside Mahalia Jackson, and how performing became part of her life at an early age. She shares the incredible story of winning a car in a childhood talent competition and booking her first acting role in The Magnificent Major. Tisha also speaks candidly about autism, ADHD, masking, motherhood, therapy, and her son Zen, explaining how her own recent diagnosis helped her better understand herself and her experiences throughout her life. She discusses her book The A Word: A Mother and Son’s Journey Through Autism and Love, the importance of autism awareness, and how sharing her family’s journey online helped create a community around her son. She also reveals the next chapter of her career as a writer, producer, and storyteller, including her production company You Go Girl Productions, her work with writing partner Danny Wright, her Lifetime project One Last Shot, and her desire to create stories that explore grief, family, healing, and the experiences of Black women. Shawn and Tisha also revisit some of the most memorable moments from Martin, including the show’s iconic catchphrases, characters, comedy, and cultural impact that continues to reach new generations. And in a revealing rapid-fire finale, Tisha talks about Gina vs. Jay, Sydney vs. Yvonne, acting vs. singing, comedy vs. drama, Martin Lawrence vs. Damon Wayans, Anita Baker, Meryl Streep, Amy Schumer, and the role she wishes more people knew about: Uncoupled. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 26 min
  • October London

    October London
    23 Sep 2026
    October London joins Shawn Stockman for an in-depth conversation on On That Note, discussing his journey from South Bend, Indiana to becoming one of the standout voices in modern R&B and a flagship artist for Death Row Records. October London opens up about the unexpected path that led him to Snoop Dogg, including the moment legendary producer Jazzy Fay discovered his music while October was preparing to become a truck driver. He shares the story of getting the call from Snoop, moving to Los Angeles, and learning the business of music by sitting in on major industry meetings. The conversation also explores October London’s musical influences, including Boyz II Men, Jagged Edge, 112, New Edition, Trey Songz, Teddy Pendergrass, Al Green, and Marvin Gaye, and how those artists helped shape his approach to timeless R&B. Shawn and October also discuss the creative philosophy behind the October London name, his different musical alter egos, his relationship with Snoop Dogg, and the freedom to explore multiple genres while maintaining a distinct R&B identity. October reflects on the making of his music, including “Back to Your Place,” “Mulholland Drive,” and “Touch on Me,” the unexpected rise of “Touch on Me” through social media and line dancing, and his latest album Love Me for Me. He also talks about his passion for classic soul, the influence of Marvin Gaye, and why timeless music still matters in modern R&B. Beyond music, October discusses his entrepreneurial ventures, including his Saint London bespoke suit line and his vision for building a brand beyond music. From South Bend to Los Angeles, from nearly becoming a truck driver to working alongside Snoop Dogg and Death Row Records, this episode gives an inside look at October London’s journey, influences, creativity, business mindset, and commitment to keeping classic R&B alive. 🎙️ Hosted by Shawn Stockman of Boyz II Men Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    1 hr and 40 min