What does it really mean when people say "Tina Turner taught Mick Jagger how to dance"? Join Sasha Geffen as they welcome author Maureen Mahon and Nkeki Obi Melekwe, who stars as Tina in the Broadway musical, to break down Tina's strategic navigation of gender and race in the music industry, embodying her on the broadway stage and, of course, those dance moves. From The Ike and Tina Turner Revue of the 1950s and 60s to the present day, Tina has proven she can rise to the top while refusing to conform to expectations. **CONTENT WARNING** This episode contains mentions of domestic violence and sexual and emotional abuse.

Is the electric guitar really so masculine? Sasha Geffen unravels our misconceptions about how the electric guitar has been gendered since its creation, with a lens on today’s shredders like Willow, Brittany Howard, and St. Vincent -- but starting from the beginning, with the Godmother of Rock 'N Roll, Sister Rosetta Tharpe. Geffen is joined by professor and author Gayle Wald to discuss Tharpe's musical career, style and influence, and the "slippery gendering" of the electric guitar.

This episode unravels how such an unusual, musically different band like R.E.M. was able to enter the mainstream, and how queer desire was woven covertly throughout their music before lead singer Michael Stipe even came out. Stevie Knipe of the band Adult Mom and of R.E.M. megafandom joins Sasha Geffen to unpack the influence of the band, from mandolins to the indie genre today. Tune in for a conversation about the explosive music scene in Athens, Georgia in the eighties, erotic Tumblrs, swimming while gay, witholding lyrics, and a suspiciously silly (read: drunk) acoustic video.