"I stopped doing what I didn't want to do anymore. It’s not hard to stop doing something you don't want to do... I didn't want to drink anymore." - Chris Leverett

In this incredibly vulnerable and powerful episode, we step away from the usual technical discussions of self-funding and insurance captives to tackle a pervasive, often silent issue in our industry: addiction and sobriety.

My guest is Chris Leverett, Executive Vice President and Managing Director of Employee Benefits at TexCap Insurance. While Chris is a veteran in the benefits space, today he shares his personal testimony of battling high-functioning alcoholism while trying to maintain a career, a marriage, and a family.

Chris opens up about the "boiling frog" effect of social drinking in the business world, the crushing weight of keeping up appearances, and the terrifying rock-bottom moments, including a lapse in insurance coverage during his daughter's premature birth, that finally led him to seek help.

We discuss the freedom found in admitting powerlessness, how he replaced the "monster" of addiction with the discipline of Ironman triathlons, and how to navigate the alcohol-heavy social scene of insurance events without losing your edge.

If you or someone you know is struggling in silence, this episode provides a blueprint for finding hope, help, and a better life on the other side.

Thank you to our 2026 sponsors!

ParetoHealth: ParetoHealth empowers midsize employers with a long-term solution to reduce volatility and lower overall health benefits costs. Visit ParetoHealth.com to learn more.

Samaritan Fund: A program that connects those who need help to the support they need. We are proud to offer the Samaritan Fund Program. Visit SamaritanFundProgram.com to learn more.

Vālenz Health: We're Vālenz Health, your partner in improving health literacy, reducing plan spend, and delivering high-value healthcare. Visit ValenzHealth.com to learn more.

Imagine360: Imagine360 helps self-funded employers save on healthcare with smarter health plans. Cut expenses by 20-30% with custom solutions. Contact us today at Imagine360.com.

Chapters:

(00:00:00) Intro: TexCap Insurance & Going Up-Market

(00:04:48) Sobriety: It Doesn't Have to Be a "Life Sentence"

(00:09:26) The High-Functioning Trap & Social Lubricant

(00:13:24) Rock Bottom #1: No Insurance During a Crisis

(00:17:27) The Final Wake-Up Call & A Wife's Dream

(00:19:21) The Power of Admitting "I Am an Alcoholic"

(00:28:25) Trading Addiction for Ironman Triathlons

(00:38:30) How to Navigate Happy Hours Sober

(00:45:13) The Blueprint: Steps to Finding Help

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"Imagine getting a real-time snapshot of your health just by looking into your phone’s camera for 30 seconds." - Simon

My guests this week are Simon Spurr, Founder of VivaScore, and Chris Burns, a veteran benefits advisor with over 40 years of experience at firms like Mercer and Sequoia. They join the show to demonstrate a piece of technology that feels like science fiction but is actually here today: rPPG (Remote Photoplethysmography).

We discuss how this technology turns a standard smartphone camera into a diagnostic tool capable of measuring blood pressure, heart rate variability (HRV), and stress levels with medical-grade accuracy, no wearables required.

In this episode, we explore whether this "digital avatar" of employee health could become the new front door to primary care. We dive into how employers are using this data to spot "silent killers" like hypertension before they become claims, why engagement rates are hitting 50%+, and how this platform connects the "worried well" to actual care pathways.

Tune in to see how we can finally move from "sick care" to true preventative maintenance, all through an iPhone lens.

Thank you to our 2026 sponsors!

ParetoHealth: ParetoHealth empowers midsize employers with a long-term solution to reduce volatility and lower overall health benefits costs. Visit ParetoHealth.com to learn more.

Samaritan Fund: A program that connects those who need help to the support they need. We are proud to offer the Samaritan Fund Program. Visit SamaritanFundProgram.com to learn more.

Vālenz Health: We're Vālenz Health, your partner in improving health literacy, reducing plan spend, and delivering high-value healthcare. Visit ValenzHealth.com to learn more.

Imagine360: Imagine360 helps self-funded employers save on healthcare with smarter health plans. Cut expenses by 20-30% with custom solutions. Contact us today at Imagine360.com.

Chapters:

(00:00:00) Is This App the Future of Primary Care?

(00:06:12) Global Healthcare: Why Costs Are Rising Everywhere

(00:08:02) Chris Burns: From Mercer to Sequoia to Tech Advisor

(00:12:45) Why Employers are Tired of "Point Solutions"

(00:22:26) How rPPG Technology Works (The Face Scan)

(00:30:18) The "What Next?" Strategy for Employers

(00:39:06) Why Everyone is Talking About HRV (Heart Rate Variability)

(00:44:37) Finding the "Silent Killers" in Your Population

(00:51:46) Gamification: How to Get 50% Engagement

Key Links for Social:

@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded

Listen/watch on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02

Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286

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"I asked him, 'What is it that you're teaching undergraduate students about benefits?’’…Just two slides. That blew me away." - Kyle Minick

My guest this week is Kyle Minick, Vice President of Employee Benefits at Summit Financial Group. Kyle returns to the show to expose a massive systemic failure: Universities are not teaching HR professionals how to manage their second-largest expense.

Kyle shares the shocking story of how he discovered that major university HR programs dedicate almost zero curriculum to healthcare strategy. Instead of complaining about it, he decided to fix it. We discuss the 6-week accredited college course he built from scratch to teach the next generation of buyers about Stop-Loss, PBMs, and TPA contracts before they enter the workforce.

But before we dive into the classroom, we dissect the broken market they are inheriting. We debate why Reference-Based Pricing (RBP) is failing in hospital-dominated markets like Texas, why relating prices to Medicare might be backfiring, and whether the government should step in to establish a "median price" for care.

Tune in to see how we can bridge the education gap and finally train buyers to demand better.

Thank you to our 2026 sponsors!

ParetoHealth: ParetoHealth empowers midsize employers with a long-term solution to reduce volatility and lower overall health benefits costs. Visit ParetoHealth.com to learn more.

Samaritan Fund: A program that connects those who need help to the support they need. We are proud to offer the Samaritan Fund Program. Visit SamaritanFundProgram.com to learn more.

Vālenz Health: We're Vālenz Health, your partner in improving health literacy, reducing plan spend, and delivering high-value healthcare. Visit ValenzHealth.com to learn more.

Imagine360: Imagine360 helps self-funded employers save on healthcare with smarter health plans. Cut expenses by 20-30% with custom solutions. Contact us today at Imagine360.com.

Chapters:

(00:00:00) Why RBP Struggles in Texas Monopolies

(00:03:30) The "Medicare Price" Fallacy

(00:11:00) Should the Government Set a Median Price?

(00:25:00) The Education Gap: How Universities Failed HR

(00:29:25) The "Two Slide" Curriculum Problem

(00:33:00) Kyle’s Solution: Building an Accredited Benefits Course

(00:43:00) Teaching HR to Audit Their Consultants

(00:54:30) The Syllabus: Stop-Loss, PBMs, and Contracts

(01:07:00) How to Enroll & The Future of Benefits Education

Key Links for Social:

@SelfFunded on YouTube for video versions of the podcast and much more - https://www.youtube.com/@SelfFunded

Listen/watch on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1TjmrMrkIj0qSmlwAIevKA?si=068a389925474f02

Listen on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-funded-with-spencer/id1566182286

Follow Spencer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spencer-smith-self-funded/

Follow Spencer on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/selffundedwithspencer/