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Real Made Up Stories

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Made up tales. Real lived truths. Stories that made us.

We made up these stories when we were younger. Now we’re living with what they became.Copyright Coequal
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  • The boy who steals a handbag, gets thrown in the car boot and ends up dancing
    Jun 23 2026
    A boy steals a handbag.
    An eagle watches from above.
    A lizard crosses his path.
    The old people already know how this story ends.

    Drawing on the storytelling of Gomeroi artist Matthew Priestley, this episode explores belonging, responsibility, and the long shadow left by people being separated from the places—and each other—they call home.

    To join us at Coequal's Patreon Page: Click here

    To listen to the podcast Wirilla: click here

    To check out the website for Big hArt: Click here

    Detailed Music Credits
    "Chrysalis" by Simon McCorry, "Soundscape" by Mirko Sossai, "Omen" by Richard Johnson, "Hurt Guitar Track 8" by Damian Mason, "Charmaine" by Philip Okerstrom, "Rockhoppy Loop" by Philip Okerstrom, "Dof Dof" by Philip Okerstrom, "Didgeridoo Long Loop" by Tera Mangala, "Guitar bits and bobs" by Philip Okerstrom, "Porch Blues" by Kevin McLeod, "Sneaky" by Philip Okerstrom, "Guts and Bourbon" by Kevin McLeod, "Deranged-terrifying-modern-hor" by Matthew Creid, "Tranquility Base" by Chill Factor,
    "Wonder and Intrigue" by Erick McNerney, "Spirit Land" by Tristan Barton, "Didgeridoo Ambient 2" by Pascal Tatipata, "What Dreams May Come" by Tristan Barton.


    Detailed Episode Description

    Act 1. Dreaming

    The episode opens with Gomeroi storyteller Matthew Priestley sharing a story about Dreaming, creation, animals, Country and the responsibilities that connect people to the natural world. Through conversation and storytelling, Matthew describes how different animals came to hold different dreams, and reflects on the relationship between people, Country, language and knowledge. The act also introduces listeners to Gomeroi Country and explores how knowledge was traditionally passed between generations.
    Act 2. Dinawan (The Emu)

    Dante and Khalani introduce Dinawan, the emu in the sky. They explain how Gomeroi people read the dark spaces in the Milky Way to see the shape of the emu and how its changing position throughout the year connected to seasonal knowledge, emu eggs, ceremony and gatherings. The act then traces the disruption caused by colonisation, including the loss of land, the interruption of pathways and songlines, restrictions on language and culture, and the impacts of missions, reserves and child removal policies.

    Act 3. Shook

    The story moves forward to Moree during Matthew's childhood and teenage years. Drawing on research, historical records and Matthew's own memories, the episode explores the experiences of Aboriginal young people in the criminal justice system during the 1970s and 1980s. Matthew reflects on school, wagging classes, getting into trouble and learning to navigate a world shaped by policing, surveillance and expectations. The discussion considers how contact with the justice system became a common experience for many Aboriginal young people.

    Act 4. The Boy Who Steals a Handbag, Gets Thrown in the Car Boot and Ends Up Dancing

    Khalani, Dante and Phil tell Matthew's Real Made Up Story originally written for the film HURT. Thirteen-year-old Alfie steals a handbag with his friend Cammo and uses the money to buy alcohol. The next morning he wakes to find himself bundled into the boot of a car by his uncles and driven deep into the bush. Left alone on Country, Alfie spends two days trying to find his way home.Along the way he encounters possums, lizards, kangaroos, birds and eagles, follows signs in the landscape, spends a night alone under the stars and slowly learns to pay attention to the world around him. Eventually he is reunited with his uncles, who paint him with ochre, share food with him and teach him through song and dance before returning him home.After the story, Matthew reflects on the real-life experience that inspired it and discusses how the story became part of the film HURT.

    Conclusion

    The episode closes with Matthew discussing storytelling, memory and the process of carrying older stories into contemporary forms. Listeners are invited to continue the journey through the Wirilla podcast series, where many of these conversations first took place.

    Real Made up stories has been assisted by the Australian Government through Creative Australia, its principal arts investment and advisory body.
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    35 min
  • Real Estate and the Three Goldilockses
    May 6 2026
    Three kids cross from a housing estate into a world of spotless display homes — and quickly turn it upside down. A funny, sharp story about class, community, and who gets to belong.Thumbnail image photograph by Emma KorhonenTo join us at Coequal's Patreon Page: Click hereTo check out the website for Beyond Empathy: Click hereTo listen to Real Estate Agent and the Three Goldilockses in Beyond Empathy's podcast series Ready Steady: click hereTo watch the film Protection: click hereTo listen to the podcast Wirilla: click hereTo listen to the Planet Money epsiode referenced in this episode: click hereTo read the research referenced in the Planet Money episode (and ours): click hereDetailed Music CreditsBasoon and Bass by Philip Okerstrom Intro Pink by Philip Okerstrom Cheeky pizzicato by Evan MacDonald Lord Weasel by Blue Dot Sessions What’s the Angle by Shane Ivers Sneaky Cheeky Idea by Philip Okerstrom The Curtain Rises by Kevin MacLeod Background pizzicato by Eric Sutherland Call to Adventure by Kevin MacLeod Play Date by Tristan Barton The Bandit by Kevin MacLeod Secret Agent Mission by Kevin MacLeod Winner winner by Kevin MacLeod Happy Street by Tristan Barton Run by Francesco Giovannangelo Grumpy Cat Comedy by Orchestralis Keystone Deluge by Kevin MacLeod Le Grand Chase by Kevin MacLeod Turning Pages by Tristan Barton Orange Sun by Francesco Giovannangelo Cheeky Question by Mark Fabian Orejitas by Blue Dot Sessions Sole Companion by Blue Dot Sessions Cheeky Cinematic Percussion Beetroof Studio Tiptoe Treadline by Blue Dot Sessions Waking Up by Ali Goldstein What Dreams May Come by Tristan BartonAll Kevin MacLeod Tracks (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/Detailed Episode DescriptionChapter 1. Introduction The episode opens with Lully (now 19), Nicky (20), Phil, and Gemma reflecting on the origins of a film they made together over a decade ago called Protection. The conversation begins with a poem about growing up in public housing and the moment a child realises their life is different to others — particularly around ideas of owning a home versus renting. This sets up the episode’s core themes: childhood, class, perception, and how stories can emerge from everyday experiences.Chapter 2. Real Estate and the Three Goldilocks (Real Made Up Story) (A playful, subversive twist on a fairy tale that explores class, imagination, and belonging through the eyes of children) The group retell Real Estate and the Three Goldilocks, a story originally created with kids from a public housing estate known as “Legoland.” Three girls leave their lively, messy, community-filled neighbourhood and wander into a nearby display home estate — a place of perfect lawns, spotless rooms, and plastic food that looks “better than real.” At first, the display homes feel magical — like a “play village.” But the girls quickly transform the sterile space into something else entirely: cubbies made from furniture, food fights with plastic fruit, and joyful chaos that reflects their own lived world. Meanwhile, the real estate agent — who values order, cleanliness, and control — becomes increasingly distressed as potential buyers encounter the mess. The story builds through repetition and escalation, culminating in a comic moment where the agent finally encounters the girls, turning the “perfect” home into something strange, lively, and unpredictable. The girls ultimately retreat back to their own neighbourhood, leaving behind disruption — and a subtle challenge to the idea of what a “better” home really is.Chapter 3. Looking Back – Making the Story as Kids Lully and Nicky reflect on what it was like to make the film as children — from acting in scenes to recording sound at a young age. They recall moments of play, laughter, and improvisation, and how the line between acting and real life often blurred. What was staged for the film felt natural because it reflected how they actually lived and played.Chapter 4. Where the Story Came From Phil and Gemma revisit how the story was developed. Initially, Lully had wanted to create a traditional fairy tale like Sleeping Beauty. Rather than dismissing that idea, the filmmakers worked to adapt it — combining fairy tale elements with real experiences from the community. This led to the “Goldilocks” structure, but flipped: instead of entering a cosy home, the girls enter a display house that feels artificial and unfamiliar. The story draws on real childhood experiences — including visiting display homes, noticing differences in housing, and the feeling of crossing into spaces that don’t quite feel like they belong to you.Chapter 5. Growing Up in Public Housing The conversation turns to lived experience. Lully and Nicky speak about becoming aware, as teenagers, of how others viewed where they lived — including negative stereotypes and feelings of shame. They reflect on ...
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    41 min
  • Rule of Thumb (Part 2)
    Oct 30 2025
    Kick and Phil relive a story 25 years in the making. Violence, regret, deja vu and discovering how our reactions shape us.To join us at Coequal's Patreon Page: Click hereTo check out the website for Big hArt: Click hereTo listen to Agents for Change: Click hereCitations:Sapolsky, R. M. (2023). Determined: a science of life without free will. Penguin Press.Giannakopoulos, B (2025) Free Will Didn’t Die with Libet: Rethinking Agency as Structure, Not SparkEinam, H., Mikulincer, M., & Shachar, R. (2024). Shedding a light on the teller: on storytelling, meaning in life, and personal goals. The Journal of Positive Psychology, 1–15. https://doi.org/10.1080/17439760.2024.2431684Real Made Up Stories has been assisted by the Australian Government through Creative Australia, its principal arts investment and advisory body."Music Credits"Atmospheric Acoustic Slide Guitar" by Hypertunes, "desert-drone-ominous-ambient" by Arcadian Sounds", "Texas Plains" by Arcadian Sounds, "Brer Krille", "Ballast", "Stipple", " An Oldly Formal Dance", "Golden Grass", "Collecting Samples", "Convex Marsa", "Strange Dog Walk", "Mineshaft" and "Pintle" by Blue Dot Sessions "Tense Drums" by Philip Okerstrom and Damian Mason, "Vengeful" by Blue Dot Sessions, "New PJ Harvey" , "Muffled GRT" by Philip Okerstrom and Damian Mason, "Track 1 Hurt", "Track 4 Hurt", "End Music Hurt" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Ayton, "Deranged" by Matthew Creid, "Ambient Rhythmic" by Damian Mason, "Sole Companion" by Blue Dot Sessions, "Minimalist Touch" by Ali Goldstein, "Intro" and "Heartless" by Philip Okerstrom, "Landscape" by Matthew Creid, "Faster Does It", "Round Drums", "Minimal Dystopian Pulse", "Thinking Music" by Kevin McLeod, "Dark Seas", "Ancient Wind Through The Ruins", "Cumuliform" by Raw Materials, Subject Matter Key Words: Violence aganist women, alcohol abuse, masculinity, Apprehended Violence Order, guns, suicidal thoughts, self harm.Note: This episode contains a lot of swear words.Detailed Episode Description:Recap Kick and Phil briefly recap Part 1: The listener is reminded of the events leading up to the key moments that Part 2 will revisit. Kick on Finding Pain, Storytelling, and TV Series Kick reflects on: Not having the “pain” often associated with great acting, and how that shaped his professional perspective. His desire to be a storyteller and what that means. A story about his mother being taken to emergency, showing his ability to make people laugh in difficult moments. How this humour and insight translate into his work writing and directing CAUGHT*, establishing his skills in crafting narrative tension and character development. Tom Story Flashback (Childhood Trauma) Young Tommy witnesses his father holding a door on his mother’s thumb, causing severe pain. Tommy experiences intense fear and guilt, sits with his mother while she sobs, and fiddles with the bullet necklace he wears. He whispers “I’m sorry,” linking his present guilt to his perceived role in the accident. Phil on Neuroscience, Kick’s Police Story, and Career, Fate, and Chance Phil discusses Sapolsky’s research on free will, showing how unconscious brain processes precede conscious decisions. Kick tells a story about a youth yelling at police, showing how prior experience shapes instinctive reactions differently. Kick recounts career-defining chance encounters, including meeting Sean Penn through a short film, emphasizing how small actions and luck shape a trajectory. Teen Tom – Contemplating Suicide, Gunshot Dream, Déjà Vu Tom holds a gun to his face, clutching the bullet necklace. A gun shot fire and Tom jolts awake. He is back at the intersection he found himself at on the previous day. Was that all a dream? But as the moments unfold the things he perhaps experienced in the dream appear to be happening again. He starts to think he should try and do something different to what he did in the dream. Lachlan picks Tom up in a car, and the conversation unfolds exactly as his dream had. But Tom chooses to answer a key question about his girlfriend Danielle in a different way. Phil on Storytelling Research, Kick on Young People Project, CAUGHT Iguana Clip* Phil shares research on how storytellers gain purpose by structuring narratives. Kick reflects on the youth projects, emphasizing that participants could actively “change the story” of their lives. Excerpt from CAUGHT*: Rebel leader discusses iguanas failing to warn each other of danger because they don’t tell stories. Pub Scene – Tom Meets Callum Tom relives the pub encounter from Part 1 with Callum. He now has a conscious opportunity to respond differently to Callum’s questions about relationships, violence, and life choices. Kick on Reacting Differently, Masculinity, and Generational Change Kick comments on the broader idea that people can react differently to repeated opportunities. He ties this to evolving masculinity and the potential for ...
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    51 min
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