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REFS NEED LOVE TOO

REFS NEED LOVE TOO

De : David Gerson
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An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside.

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  • World Cup Officiating Insights with Alan Kelly - PRO Director of Senior Match Officials and Former FIFA Referee
    Jul 9 2026

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    The World Cup can make even experienced fans feel like the rules changed overnight. Players stay on their feet more, restarts happen faster, and referees seem more willing to let contact go without losing control. That’s not an accident, and I wanted a real expert to explain what’s happening and why it matters.

    I’m joined by Alan Kelly, a former FIFA referee and the Director of Senior Match Officials at PRO, the organization responsible for training and assigning top professional referees in the United States. Alan shares what it’s like watching the tournament from the stands while still evaluating the craft, plus why having so many PRO officials working the World Cup is a major milestone. We dig into the bigger story behind modern soccer officiating: credibility comes from reading the game early, moving proactively to create clean angles, and communicating in ways that prevent chaos rather than react to it.

    We also get into the practical stuff fans are noticing right now, including stronger crackdowns on time wasting, quicker substitutions, off-field treatment requirements, and visible counts on restarts that keep the ball in play. Then we talk ref cam and why first-person footage can change referee education at every level by showing what the referee could and couldn’t see. We wrap with one of the best development tips I’ve heard: soft skills are built by watching more soccer with intent, not just studying big VAR moments.

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    38 min
  • We Need Better Systems To Support Officials with Huck Sorock of REFR Sports
    Jun 9 2026

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    The World Cup is almost here, and my life is about to get loud in the best way: I’m heading to seven matches with FIFA and TikTok as a Creator Correspondent, with access that changes what I can share and where I can share it. That excitement is real, but so is the deeper reason I care about this tournament. When the US Men’s National Team takes the field, you see a diverse group that reminds us what it looks like to pull in the same direction, even when the country feels split apart.

    We also sit with a story that is hard to shake: a Somali FIFA referee, after years of screening and international travel, reportedly lands in Miami and is denied entry for “vetting concerns.” We talk about what that decision costs on a human level, what it suggests about travel bans and bias, and why judging people as individuals matters. For anyone who loves soccer, refereeing, and the integrity of global sport, it’s a moment worth examining out loud.

    Then we get tactical with Huck Sorock from Refer Sports about the biggest hidden problem in youth sports and amateur soccer: referee assigning. We dig into what modern referee assigning software should actually do, from paying officials faster to reducing admin chaos during massive tournaments. We talk AI schedule imports, agentic AI as a productivity multiplier, building an in-app community for training and support, and why retention improves when assigners can spend less time on spreadsheets and more time mentoring refs. If you care about sports officiating, referee retention, and smarter assigning systems, this one is for you.

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    54 min
  • Coach Challenges And Video Review In College Soccer with John Collins, NCAA Head of Officiating
    May 28 2026

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    College soccer is about to change in ways that will hit everyone on match day: referees, coaches, players, and the people in the stands wondering why the game has stopped again. After sharing a personal weekend at the brand-new U.S. Soccer National Training Center, including the eye-opening mechanics of officiating deaf and power wheelchair matches, we bring on one of the best voices to explain what’s coming next for the NCAA.

    John Collins, the NCAA national coordinator of soccer officials and a professional assessor across MLS, NWSL, and USL, walks us through the biggest NCAA soccer rules changes. We dig into the move to a coach-initiated video review challenge system, what incidents are actually reviewable, and why replay in college can be painfully slow without a full VAR team, dedicated replay operators, and a deep set of camera angles. John also breaks down why the fourth official becomes even more important now, how substitution opportunities shift when the clock is stopped, and what the optional Video Match Official role could mean for the future.

    We also tackle the men’s Division I fall-spring calendar proposal, the student-athlete wellness case behind it, and the ripple effects on referee scheduling, development, and opportunity across all divisions. We wrap with the cultural hold of the countdown clock, plus discipline updates like simplifying violent behavior categories and new bench decorum accountability that puts staff cautions onto the head coach’s accumulation. If you care about NCAA soccer officiating, video review, coach challenges, and the direction of the college game, this is the roadmap. Subscribe, share with your referee crew, and leave a review with your take on coach challenges and replay time.

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    1 h et 11 min
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