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  • Ep 99 | The Invisible ROI of AI
    Jan 10 2026

    You’ve been taught to look for ROI where it’s loud:
    dashboards, pings, replies, or activity.

    But what if that’s not ROI at all…
    What if it’s just more noise dressed up as progress?

    In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez introduces a concept that flips the AI conversation on its head: Invisible ROI - the kind of value you don’t see on a screen, but you feel in your day.

    Featuring Tyler Nelson’s breakdown of why 60% of PM communication is just follow-up (aka: telephone tag), this episode shows why the real promise of agentic AI isn’t speed… It’s also silence.

    You’ll learn:

    📞 The hidden workload swallowing your team’s day (and why it’s bigger than you think)
    🧠 Why “busy” is often a signal your system is broken (not your team)
    🤖 The agentic AI rule that changes everything: never let your agent rest
    🚪 How AI becomes the filter + gatekeeper (escalating only what truly needs a human)
    🔇 The surprising KPI that signals you’re finally scaling

    The best AI ROI doesn’t show up as more activity… it shows up as something disappearing.

    🎧 Listen now and discover why the most profitable thing AI can create is the thing nobody talks about.

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:
    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

    Chapters:

    00:00 The Lie We’ve Been Told About ROI
    00:45 The Efficiency Trap
    01:30 The Invisible Work No One Accounts For
    02:15 60% of the Day Is Just Follow-Ups
    03:15 Never Let Your Agent Rest
    04:15 AI as the Filter and Gatekeeper
    05:15 The Real ROI: Buying Your Life Back

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    7 min
  • Ep 98 | Jen's Simple Formula To Leverage Video In Property Management w/ Jennifer Ruelens
    Jan 7 2026

    Most property managers know video could be useful. But very few have a simple formula that gets results without asking you to be in an influencer.

    In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Jen Ruelens of Hold It w/ PM Jen to break down a simple, repeatable formula property managers can use to leverage video without becoming a marketer, influencer, or content creator.

    Jen walks through how property managers can start using video inside their business first, with 1:1 videos and simple operational explainers before ever worrying about public content or “strategy.” The result isn’t more content. It’s less friction, better clients, faster trust, and more leverage across sales, operations, and retention.

    You’ll learn:

    ⚠️ What’s actually at stake when property managers stay invisible
    🎥 How to get started with video even if you hate being on camera
    🧩 The copyable progression: 1:1 video → ops explainers → optional public content
    🔧Why video is leverage even if you have no plan to use it for marketing
    🚀 Why content increases pipeline velocity (warmer leads, faster closes, better clients, stronger retention)

    Along the way, they also unpack why visibility changes authority in property management and why operators who avoid the camera often end up carrying responsibility without influence.

    🎧 Listen now to learn a simple video formula you can copy and use immediately inside your property management business.

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:

    🤝 Connect with Jennifer Ruelens
    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

    Chapters:

    01:33 First Impressions Matter (Even When You’re Not “Marketing”)
    01:50 When Investors Bounce Between PMs and Why You Inherit the Damage
    03:27 The Incentive Problem That Breaks Trust in Property Management
    05:01 Why Content Is a Defensive Weapon for Property Managers
    14:06 Why Property Management Needs More Women in Positions of Authority
    16:23 How Property Managers Build Confidence on Camera (Without Becoming Influencers)
    32:27 Building a Content Engine That Doesn’t Distract From Operations
    43:46 In an AI World, Real Property Managers Stand Out Faster
    44:19 Writing Owner-Facing Content That Actually Sounds Like You
    44:55 How Visibility Reduces Owner Friction and Client Churn
    45:34 The Fastest Way for PMs to Gain Industry Credibility
    46:21 When Visibility Turns Into Real Leverage (Vendors, Fees, Influence)
    58:10 Making Invisible PM Work Visible (and Respected)
    01:04:05 The Long Game: Building Authority That Outlasts the Market

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    1 h et 10 min
  • Ep 97 | The AI Blueprint of the 95% Club.
    Jan 3 2026

    Maintenance has become the single biggest drain on time, attention, and sanity in property management. Not because the work is hard, but because most of it is still being handled manually.

    In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez is joined by former property management owner Tyler Nelson, Head of Account Operations at Vendoroo, to break down The AI Blueprint of the 95% Club — a four-pillar framework used by operators who’ve automated nearly their entire maintenance workflow without losing control or the human touch.

    This episode is not a software walkthrough.
    It’s a systems-level explanation of how high-performing PMs think differently about AI, automation, and ownership, especially when 60% of the work is just noise.

    You’ll learn:

    🧠 Why AI must be treated like a hire, not a chatbot
    🤖 The shift from Generative AI (answers) to Agentic AI (goals)
    ⚙️ How “the agent that never rests” eliminates follow-ups and back-and-forth
    📊 How data trains system logic to reach 90–95% automation

    🎧 Listen now if you’re ready to stop doing maintenance coordination manually and start building the system that earns you entry into the 95% Club.

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:

    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

    Chapters:

    00:00 The Biggest Drain on Property Managers
    00:34 Introducing the 95% Club
    01:35 The Role of AI in Property Management
    02:02 From Tools to Teammates: Tyler's Insights
    03:49 Achieving 90-95% Automation
    04:35 Training Your AI for Success
    06:15 The Importance of an AI Receptionist
    07:54 The Ultimate Goal: Human Sentiment and Owner Relationships
    08:17 Conclusion: Time to Build

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    9 min
  • Ep 96 | The 2026 Growth Playbook w/ Stacey Salyer & Tony Cline
    Dec 31 2025

    The era of the "hustle" is ending. If your 2025 strategy was to grind for 10 new doors a month, fix every fire yourself, and say "yes" to every owner, you are playing a game that is becoming impossible to win.

    In this powerful year-end retrospective, Pablo Gonzalez sits down with industry leaders Stacey Salyer and Tony Cline to dissect the massive identity shift happening in property management right now:

    The move from Operator to Acquirer and from Manager to Conductor.

    They break down why buying a 300-door portfolio is easier than selling your way there, and how to stop "moving the mud" of broken operations so you can finally quit rowing the boat and start steering the ship.

    You'll learn:

    🍝 Why so many PMs felt chaotic in 2025 and how to focus for 2026.
    📈 Why you should stop hustling for single doors and start buying portfolios.
    🧹 Why implementing new software won’t fix a broken team structure (Moving the Mud)
    🎯 Why you must be brave enough to alienate 90% of the market to win.

    If you felt like 2025 was your "Spaghetti Year"—throwing things at the wall to see what sticks—this episode is your blueprint for cleaning up the mess and building a machine for 2026.

    🎧 Listen now!

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:

    🤝 Connect with Stacey Salyer & Tony Cline on LinkedIn
    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website
    🚀 Vendoroo 90 days free promo (AI receptionist, AI triage, AI troubleshooting, and work order creation): https://info.vendoroo.ai/2025-free-offer/
    Offer ends Dec 31.

    Chapters:

    00:50 The 2025 State of the Industry
    01:54 Managing Zoom Etiquette & "Note Taker" Bots
    02:49 Post-Conference Recovery & The Grand Canyon Test
    06:14 Moving From Operator to Acquirer (The Mindset Shift)
    07:33 The "Genius with Helpers" Bottleneck
    12:57 Is AI a Horror Movie or Pizza Delivery? (Consumer Expectations)
    25:31 Why Most PM Companies Look Exactly the Same
    28:37 The "Frankenstein" Portfolio: The Cost of Taking Any Owner
    29:19 Why Your Current Systems Will Break at the Next Level
    30:12 The Danger of "Shiny Object" Revenue
    31:10 The Hard Truth About Getting 5% Better at Operations
    32:09 Sunsetting Services to Save Your Sanity
    34:25 The Math of Buying 300 Doors vs. Hustling for 10

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    54 min
  • Ep 95 | The AI-First Org Chart: How Modern PM Teams Are Actually Being Built
    Dec 27 2025

    AI isn’t “coming” anymore. It’s here.
    So now the question isn’t “Will AI replace my team?”
    It’s this:

    “What does my org chart look like when AI owns the tasks?”

    In this special mini-episode compilation of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez with Reza Keshavarzi, Jay Berube and Bill Davy break down how to build the AI-First Org Chart from the ground up—so you can stop guessing, stop bolting tools onto broken workflows, and start designing a team where humans and AI actually collaborate.

    You’ll get the clearest structural blueprint we’ve seen yet for how PM companies evolve from local → remote → agentic AI—without losing trust, culture, or the human edge.

    You’ll learn:

    🧭 How to redesign your org chart when “task execution” becomes a commodity and what humans should own instead
    🧠 Why the winners won’t be “AI experts,” but human experts who can translate real-world nuance into AI behavior
    🏗️ What the AI-First Org Chart actually looks like—and the 3 human roles that become irreplaceable (community builder, storyteller/educator, hard-conversation specialist)
    🛠️ How to onboard and manage AI like a real teammate—what to watch, what to train, and when to let it drive

    This isn’t a theory episode. It’s a blueprint episode.
    Because the companies that win won’t be the ones asking “Should we use AI?” They’ll be the ones who can answer one question clearly:

    “Where does AI sit on our org chart and what does that free our humans to become?”

    🎧 Listen now to see how the AI-First Org Chart gives you a structure you can actually build from.

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:

    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website
    🚀 Vendoroo 90 days free promo (AI receptionist, AI triage, AI troubleshooting, and work order creation) Offer ends Dec 31.

    Chapters:

    00:00 The Big Question: Will AI Replace Us?
    00:21 Introduction to the AI-First Org Chart
    01:15 Understanding the Human-AI Collaboration
    02:31 The Evolution of the Org Chart
    04:21 The Future Org Chart: AI and Human Roles
    06:14 Managing AI as a Digital Teammate
    07:12 Conclusion: Embracing the AI-First Era

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    9 min
  • Ep 94 | Building an Investor-Grade Property Management Business w/ Peter Tverdov
    Dec 24 2025

    What if the reason your PM business feels like chaos isn’t your team… it’s the type of doors you manage?

    In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Pablo Gonzalez sits down with Peter Tverdov, a vertically integrated operator who’s proving a contrarian truth: quality doors scale, low-quality doors burn you out.

    They unpack how an investor-grade, turnkey model (brokerage + construction + management + systems) upgrades your entire business-margin, trust, retention, and growth- without worshiping door count.

    You’ll learn:

    🔥 Why “bad doors” create the firefight (and how to escape it)
    📈 The growth math: why revenue per door beats more doors
    🏗️ What turnkey actually means when you’re vertically integrated
    🤝 How to earn premium trust with investor language + investor-grade operations
    ⚙️ Why tech is a credibility signal, not a shiny object

    🎧 Listen now if you’re ready to stop scaling stress and start building an investor-grade PM business that compounds.

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:

    🤝 Connect with Peter Tverdov on LinkedIn
    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website
    🚀 Vendoroo 90 days free promo (AI receptionist, AI triage, AI troubleshooting, and work order creation): https://info.vendoroo.ai/2025-free-offer/
    Offer ends Dec 31.


    Chapters:

    00:42 Solving Staff Burnout & Boosting Profits
    02:20 The Scary Truth About Niching Down
    02:55 Grading Your Portfolio: Why We Reject "C" Properties
    04:50 The Math: Increasing Revenue Per Door (Without More Doors)
    10:04 Merging Brokerage & PM: Stop Training Your Competition
    13:10 The Construction Arm: Why We Only Do "Blueprint Jobs"
    16:47 From Wall Street to Real Estate: Leveraging the Banker Mindset
    21:14 Why Student Athletes Make the Best Property Managers
    24:24 The "Renovation Showcase" Marketing Move
    24:42 Moving Beyond Rent Collection to Financial Analysis
    25:13 The Year-End Report: Making Invisible Work Visible
    25:47 Prospecting Your Own Clients for New Deals
    28:22 "I Didn't Know You Did That": Upselling Existing Owners
    29:03 The $1M Net Worth Rule: Vetting New Clients
    30:41 The "Silver Platter" Strategy: Flipping Homes to Clients
    39:00 Pete and the Robots: Using AI to Signal Sophistication
    44:35 Speaking the Language of High-Net-Worth Investors

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    51 min
  • Ep 93 | The Injustice Of The Holidays For Property Managers & A Way To Break Out!
    Dec 20 2025

    What if the most unfair part of property management… is the part no one talks about?

    The holidays.

    While everyone else is unplugging, property management teams are on-call because the “small” maintenance issue that’s no big deal in September becomes a full-blown emergency when tenants have family in town and the oven dies at 6 PM on Christmas Eve.

    In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, Vendoroo's Chief Evangelist, Pablo Gonzalez, calls out the holiday injustice baked into the PM operating model and shares a practical way to break out of the firefight this season, not “someday.”

    You’ll hear the real story of how Vendoroo evolved from onboarding like a SaaS company… to onboarding like a new teammate: an AI agent that can plug into your PMS, learn how you actually run maintenance (vendors, escalation rules, real policies), and start taking work off your team’s plate within an hour.

    You’ll learn:

    🎄 Why the holidays expose the “always-on” trap in property management
    📞 How an AI voice receptionist can handle calls, route requests, and create work orders (without phone trees)
    🧠 The difference between AI that assists and AI that owns outcomes
    🛠️ How troubleshooting + triage reduces unnecessary work orders and lowers your open WO count
    ⏱️ Why this isn’t “software to learn”, it’s a teammate that raises its hand when it’s unsure

    To make it real, Vendoroo is offering a 90-day risk-free trial of its entry-level package built to give your team breathing room during the most stressful time of the year.

    If you’ve been curious about Vendoroo but never had the right moment… this is the moment.

    🎧 Listen now and give your team the gift of getting off the phone.

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:

    🎙️Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website
    🚀 Vendoroo 90 days free promo (AI receptionist, AI triage, AI troubleshooting, and work order creation) Offer ends Dec 31.

    Chapters:

    00:00 Why the Holiday Season Is Rigged Against PM Teams
    00:08 Confessions of a Newcomer
    00:21 When “Small Maintenance” Becomes a Holiday Emergency
    00:53 Our Response: The 90-Day Risk-Free Trial
    01:03 The Package: AI Receptionist + Triage Agent
    01:15 Automating the Work Order Creation Process
    01:32 Why SaaS Onboarding Fails (and Why This Isn’t That)
    02:12 Challenging the Team to Fix Onboarding
    02:27 The 1-Hour Setup: How AI Learns Your Policies Instantly
    03:11 From "Software Tool" to "Teammate with Judgment"
    03:56 Your New Holiday Strategy: Tip of the Spear AI
    04:46 A 40% Reduction in Open Work Orders (The ROI)
    05:06 The "Friend Test": Why You Should Try It Now
    05:49 Why We Have <2% Churn (98/100 Clients Stay)
    06:37 A Holiday Wish… and a Challenge to Give Your Team a Break

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    7 min
  • Ep 92 | Convincing Your Clients To Buy More Rentals: The Case For It w/ Justin Anderson
    Dec 17 2025

    What if the market isn’t as expensive as it looks?
    And what if, beneath the headlines, the rates, and the noise, real estate is actually on sale right now?

    In this episode of Property Management Frame Breakers, investor and author Justin Anderson joins Pablo Gonzalez to break down one of the most eye-opening frameworks we’ve ever brought to the show:
    Why real estate has never been cheaper in real terms… and why almost no one sees it.

    Using gold as a value yardstick (instead of the dollar), Justin reveals how today’s market—despite record prices—may be the greatest buying opportunity of the last 70+ years. But this episode isn’t just about deals.
    It’s about identity, freedom, and the mindset shift property managers must make to build the wealth they help others create.

    You’ll learn:

    ✨ Why “scaling to 50 doors” is a trap
    🎯 How to distinguish between a Pioneer (who gets arrows in their back) and a Settler (who makes money)
    🏡 Why your next big move isn’t finding a new client, it’s buying your next rental

    If you’re a property manager, an investor, or someone who feels stuck waiting for “the right time,” this conversation will change how you see the market and your future...forever.

    🎧 Listen now and discover why the next best investment decision of your life might be the one you make today.

    🌟 Stay Connected with Us:

    🤝 Connect with Justin Anderson on LinkedIn
    🎙️ Connect with Pablo Gonzalez on LinkedIn
    📬Subscribe to Vendoroo's Weekly Newsletter
    💼 Follow Vendoroo on LinkedIn
    🌐 Visit Vendoroo's Website

    Chapters:

    00:42 How Industry Events Reveal Where the Money Is Going Next
    02:17 Why Top Operators Don’t Just Attend Events - They Position Themselves
    03:49 What PMs MUST Know About Today’s Market
    03:59 The Investor PMs Are Learning From Right Now
    05:00 The Golden Age of Real Estate (and Why PMs Win First)
    09:57 The Value Hack Every PM Should Use to Advise Investors
    18:22 How to Talk to Owners Who Think Prices Are “Too High” to Buy
    25:18 Why PMs Should Stop Trying to Scale Like Gurus
    36:31 Investor Lens vs. Homeowner Lens
    37:1How PMs Identify Appreciation Before It Happens
    49:18 Your Real Retirement Plan
    55:37 The 2 Purposes of Money Every PM Should Teach Investors
    01:03:10 Where PMs Are Headed Next (and Why It’s Bigger Than Management)

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    1 h et 2 min