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Product for Product Management

Product for Product Management

De : Matt Green & Moshe Mikanovsky
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Product for Product is a show hosted by Matt Green and Moshe Mikanovsky aimed at helping listeners navigate the growing depth of product management tools while also providing our insights into the categories that make up the PM role. We will take listeners with us on a journey of discovery through areas of product analytics, road mapping, productivity and many others. If you want to keep up with the latest in product management come along for the ride!

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https://linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct
https://linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky

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    • EP 134 - Product Engine for PMF - Giacomo Poggiali
      Jul 23 2025
      Do you have a method to reach Product Market Fit (PMF) with your product?

      In this episode, we’re joined by Giacomo Poggiali, a Sparring Partner for bold partners at Sparring Startups, to learn about his “Product Engine” framework for reaching PMF. Giacomo is a product coach and repeat founding product leader who has helped over 150 startups navigate the challenging path to product-market fit (PMF).


      Giacomo shares how his journey began with the lean startup methodology as his thesis, and how he’s since applied those principles across design, product, and marketing in early-stage companies. After experiencing the transformation that comes with reaching PMF firsthand, Giacomo became passionate about helping other teams replicate that journey—again and again.


      We dive into Giacomo’s perspective on what PMF really means, moving beyond textbook definitions to describe how it actually feels for a team: the shift from pushing a boulder uphill to racing after it as momentum takes hold. Drawing from years of hands-on experience, Giacomo introduces his “Product Engine” framework—a practical playbook for identifying your most valuable users, uncovering what truly drives value, and systematically removing blockers to adoption.


      Join Matt and Moshe as they explored with Giacomo:

      • The difference between pre- and post-PMF challenges for product teams
      • What the Product Engine is, and how it helps startups identify their lighthouse users and core value
      • How to use behavioral data and qualitative insights to uncover value blockers
      • The 80/20 approach: why doubling down on core value matters more than fixing every blocker
      • When and how to off-board users who aren’t a good fit
      • Real-world examples of the Product Engine in action, including pivots and surprising discoveries
      • Applying the Product Engine to B2B, B2C, and API products
      • Practical steps for product managers to start implementing the framework
      • Where AI can support the process of finding PMF
      • Advice for teams and PMs on building something truly valuable—and knowing when you’ve reached PMF
      • And much more!
      You can connect with Giacomo at:
      • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/giacomopoggiali/
      • Sparing Startups: https://www.sparringstartups.com/
      You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin: -
      • Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
      • Matt Green - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/
      • Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/

      Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.

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      1 h et 5 min
    • EP 133 - API Analytics for PMs with Deepa Goyal
      Jul 9 2025
      APIs are products but they don’t always get the same focus they deserve to be successful.In this episode of the Product for Product Podcast, we sit down with Deepa Goyal, Product Strategy Leader at Postman and author of API Analytics for Product Managers: Understand key API metrics that can help you grow your business, to explore what it takes to manage APIs as products.

      Deepa shares her journey from PayPal and Twilio to her current role at Postman, and discusses the rise of the API Product Manager and how APIs are shaping modern organizations.We explore why Deepa wrote her book, who it’s for, and what product managers—whether or not they work directly with APIs—can learn from it. Deepa explains how analytics are critical for measuring API success, the unique challenges of building API products, and why developers are often the primary customers.


      In addition, she shares insights from her research for the book and the writing process, including how she validated her ideas and what she learned about the API lifecycle, onboarding, and product-market fit.


      Join Matt and Moshe as they explore with Deepa:
      • The rise of the API Product Manager and how APIs are transforming businesses
      • Different types of APIs—internal, external, and partner—and their strategic impact
      • Why analytics are essential for measuring API product success
      • Unique challenges of building API products
      • Insights from writing and validating her book, API Analytics for PMs
      • The impact of AI on product management and the future of APIs
      • Strategies for API pricing and revenue models
      • Key metrics and leading indicators for API adoption and activation
      • Advice for product managers looking to build technical skills and drive impact
      • And much more
      You can connect with Deepa at:
      • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepag/
      • X: @1sprintatatime
      • API Analytics for Product Managers book: https://www.amazon.com/API-Analytics-Product-Managers-Understand/dp/1803247657
      You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin: -
      • Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
      • Matt Green - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/
      • Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/

      Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.

      Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
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      1 h et 5 min
    • EP 132 - Hacking Your PM Job Search with Marcus Polini
      Jun 25 2025
      In this episode we welcome Marcus Polini to share the story behind his recent job search in product leadership, and the practical tools, frameworks, and mindsets that helped him land his next big role.

      Marcus’s journey, like almost every product person we talked with, is anything but linear. From his roots in geomatics engineering and a hackathon win that led to founding CityConnect, to the hard lessons of startup failure, Marcus’s path has been shaped by persistence and a passion for building. After applying to 60 front-end engineering jobs, he pivoted into project management and quickly found his calling in product, bridging his entrepreneurial appetite with a growing interest in healthcare and technology.

      Before entering the job market, Marcus headed Product at Medstack, which was acquired and his position was cut during the merger. This was an opportunity for him to explore what he loves doing and where he sees himself in his future career path. His path to his current position, as Head of Product, Platform at Dispatch Integration, inspired us to talk with him on the show about the process and tools he applied.

      Join Matt and Moshe as we dive deep into Marcus’s most recent job search, exploring:
      • How he used the Phyl Terry’s “Never Search Alone” process to set up a Job Search Council who helped him move through the search
      • The frameworks he used to narrow down his values, passions, and motivating forces
      • How he planned his career path as a product, complete with KPIs for personal outcomes
      • The tactical tools that made a difference
      • Using consulting as a path to a full-time product leadership role at Dispatch Integration
      • The critical role of community and mentorship throughout the process
      • The impact of AI on the modern job search
      • How to use AI thoughtfully to enhance, not replace, your authenticity in the job search
      • His favorite AI tools and how he uses them
      • And so much more!
      You can connect with Marcus at:
      • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpolini/
      • Article and template used for the process: https://open.substack.com/pub/productbymarcus/p/the-compass-i-didnt-know-i-needed
      You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
      • Product for Product Podcast - linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
      • Matt Green - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproduct/
      • Moshe Mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/

      Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.

      Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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