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 The nationals are coming for your clients. Consolidation is crushing margins. And if you're not keeping up with the latest in the payroll and HR industry, you're going to get left behind. Welcome to Payrollin'. The no-BS podcast for independent payroll bureau owners and leaders who are done getting squeezed by ADP, Paychex, and the private equity machines swallowing up the industry. Hosted by Matt Vaadi, founder of guHRoo (a PEO) and Outsourced Scale (offshore staffing for payroll providers), this show delivers the strategies you need to survive — and thrive — while the middle collapses around you. Every week, you'll get: → Industry intel on the billion-dollar deals reshaping payroll → Proven tactics to scale past the 7-figure barrier → Real talk on margins, pricing, and profitability → Strategies to compete without killing your bottom line → Guests who've sold, scaled, or disrupted the status quo Whether you're fighting margin compression, exploring industry partnerships, or figuring out how to scale without sacrificing service, this podcast cuts through the corporate speak and gives you actionable pathways forward. Because if you're not specializing in a niche or adding serious value beyond commoditized payroll, you're racing to the bottom. Subscribe to Payrollin' and join 1,000+ payroll industry professionals who get the Wednesday newsletter breaking down what's happening in the industry — and what it means for your business.All rights reserved by WRKdefined Direction Economie Management Management et direction
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  • What’s the Current Average for Employee Benefits? $753 Premium, 78% Employer Paid

    What’s the Current Average for Employee Benefits? $753 Premium, 78% Employer Paid
    Apr 28 2026
    📧 Get weekly payroll bureau growth strategies (1,000+ leaders subscribed): → https://www.payrollinpodcast.com/ Are your employee benefits actually competitive… or just “good enough”? In this video, Matt Vaadi sits down with Matt Wilson from Scott Insurance to break down Milliman's benchmarking data across 20,000+ companies and show exactly how the guHRoo PEO plan designs stack up against national, regional, and small group benchmarks. What You’ll Learn • How your health insurance costs compare (PPO vs High Deductible plans) • Benchmarks for deductibles, co-insurance, and out-of-pocket maximums • What other employers are contributing (and what employees actually pay) • Key trends in dental, vision, and additional benefits • How to use benchmarking data to improve your benefits strategy • The real drivers behind rising healthcare costs If you are offering benefits just to stay compliant, you may be missing an opportunity. This webinar gives you the data to validate your approach and make confident decisions going into open enrollment. ⏰ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Why benchmarking data matters before your next renewal 01:41 — How to read the benchmark data (national vs. regional vs. small group) 05:16 — PPO plan design benchmarks: deductible, coinsurance, out-of-pocket max 10:31 — Copay benchmarks: primary care, specialist, and pharmacy 17:07 — What employers are actually paying (and the family coverage strategy) 19:51 — High-deductible plan benchmarks + the case for HSAs over 401(k)s 28:45 — Dental and vision: what's standard, what's competitive 35:30 — Life, disability, and other benefits prevalence data 42:28 — The real cost of catastrophic claims (cancer, NICU, specialty drugs) 49:31 — Using this data to validate your benefits strategy 📧 GET THE INSIDER NEWSLETTER Weekly strategies for scaling your payroll bureau (1,000+ leaders subscribed) → https://www.payrollinpodcast.com/ 🎯 THIS WEEK'S RESOURCE: 📄 Take your payroll company to the next level. Get expert strategies for rapid growth! https://go.guhroo.co/payroll-company-growth 💡 SCALE YOUR BUREAU WITH OUR HELP: 1️⃣ Add PEO Services - New revenue stream without new clients → Learn more: https://www.guhroo.co/partners/ 2️⃣ Hire Virtual Assistants - Scale operations at 70% less cost → https://www.outsourcedscale.com/ 3️⃣ Marketing That Works - Get the system we use → https://underdogdigital.co/ 🔔 SUBSCRIBE for weekly payroll growth strategies: → Hit the bell to never miss an episode 💬 CONNECT WITH MATT: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattvaadi Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/payrollinnovation 👉 TODAY'S GUEST: → Matt Wilson, Vice President, Benefits Consultant at Scott Insurance https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattwilson6/ #payroll #payrollservices #bureauowner how to benchmark employee benefits how to compare employee benefits packages what are competitive employee benefits average health insurance cost for small business how much should employers pay for benefits employee benefits for companies under 50 employees how to choose between PPO and HDHP benefits strategy for small business owners open enrollment planning for employers how to reduce employee benefits costs
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    42 min
  • I Drove 3 Hours to See Inside a $3B PEO Acquirer (Here's What I Found)

    I Drove 3 Hours to See Inside a $3B PEO Acquirer (Here's What I Found)
    Apr 17 2026
    I drove three hours. No agenda, no idea what I was walking into to spend half a day inside Vensure Employer Services headquarters. What I saw was nothing like what I expected. 105 acquisitions. 8 deals in legal. 50 in the pipeline. $750M in revenue and still raising capital. This episode is the closest thing to a behind-the- scenes tour of the most aggressive PEO acquirer in the country and I'm sharing everything: how they structure deals, what they actually pay, why they don't force platform migrations, their AI client churn prediction tool that's 80% accurate, and what this means if you own a payroll bureau or PEO and are even remotely thinking about what comes next. This is not a sponsored episode. I told Alex Campos I wouldn't be a shill. This is my unbiased take after a 250-slide deck and a full facility tour. Subscribe for weekly intel on running and growing a payroll business: https://www.youtube.com/@payrollinpod Join the newsletter: https://www.payrollinpodcast.com/ ⏰ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Why I drove 3 hours on a 15-minute phone call 02:57 — What I thought they wanted (I was wrong) 05:21 — The current Vensure scoreboard: 105 deals and counting 07:37 — How the deal structure actually works (80/20 split explained) 13:36 — Inside the 1,200-task acquisition system 18:03 — The AI tool predicting client churn with 80% accuracy 24:36 — Should you sell? The only thing I'll say about that. #PEO #PayrollBusiness #BusinessAcquisition #SmallBusiness #HRTech 📧 GET THE INSIDER NEWSLETTER Weekly strategies for scaling your payroll bureau (1,000+ leaders subscribed) → https://www.payrollinpodcast.com/ 🎯 THIS WEEK'S RESOURCE: 💼Three Keys to Expand Your Payroll Business. Learn the top tactics to scale and grow your payroll company https://youtu.be/6aW8RmVj8OE 💡 SCALE YOUR BUREAU WITH OUR HELP: 1️⃣ Add PEO Services - New revenue stream without new clients → Learn more: https://www.guhroo.co/partners/ 2️⃣ Hire Virtual Assistants - Scale operations at 70% less cost → https://www.outsourcedscale.com/ 3️⃣ Marketing That Works - Get the system we use → https://underdogdigital.co/ 🔔 SUBSCRIBE for weekly payroll growth strategies: → Hit the bell to never miss an episode 💬 CONNECT WITH MATT: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattvaadi Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/payrollinnovation #payroll #payrollservices #bureauowner How do payroll company acquisitions work? What is the 80/20 deal structure in payroll acquisitions? How do PEO acquisitions work? What happens when you sell your payroll business? How much are payroll companies worth when selling? How long does it take to sell a payroll company? What do buyers look for in a payroll business? Should I sell my payroll company or keep it? How are PEO companies growing through acquisitions? Why is the payroll industry consolidating?
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    26 min
  • The PEO Industry Lost 40% of Its Players. What's Next?

    The PEO Industry Lost 40% of Its Players. What's Next?
    Mar 26 2026
    📧 Get weekly payroll bureau growth strategies (1,000+ leaders subscribed): → https://www.payrollinpodcast.com/Matt recently joined Pete A. Tiliakos and Julie Fernandez on the HR & Payroll 2.0 Podcast for a thoughtful conversation on the future of HR, payroll, and PEO services.In this episode, they discuss:• Matt’s journey into the payroll and HR space• The current state of PEO consolidation and market pressure• Why the SMB market is changing and what buyers want today• The growing divide between tech-first solutions and service-first providers• How niche specialization can create a major competitive advantage• The rise of embedded payroll and what it could mean for the industry• How AI is influencing HR and payroll tools, pricing, and buyer expectations• Why companies should focus on solving real pain points instead of chasing shiny featuresFrom go-to-market strategy to the realities of serving small businesses, this episode is full of practical insights for payroll providers, HR leaders, and anyone watching the future of workforce technology.⏰ *TIMESTAMPS:*0:00 Intro01:04 Matt’s background and how he got into the industry03:20 Why people stay in payroll and HR longer than expected06:43 What’s exciting (and concerning) in today’s SMB market08:38 The rise of the DIY buyer and changing buying behavior11:32 The reality of competition and “everything looking the same”14:40 Why niche payroll providers are winning (and scaling faster)16:53 Private equity’s role in reshaping the PEO industry18:52 The big stat: PEOs down ~40% due to consolidation21:13 Will consolidation continue into the future?22:43 Enterprise players entering the space (Workday, Insperity)26:31 Overcrowding, trust, and how buyers actually choose providers30:22 Centers of influence: CPAs, brokers, and referral ecosystems32:35 The overlooked opportunity with consultants and fractional leaders39:27 Embedded payroll: hype vs reality44:34 AI in payroll: what’s real today and what’s coming next📧 *GET THE INSIDER NEWSLETTER*Weekly strategies for scaling your payroll bureau (1,000+ leaders subscribed)→ https://www.payrollinpodcast.com/🎯 *THIS WEEK'S RESOURCE:*📄 Take your payroll company to the next level. Get expert strategies for rapid growth!https://go.guhroo.co/payroll-company-growth💡 *SCALE YOUR BUREAU WITH OUR HELP:*1️⃣ *Add PEO Services* - New revenue stream without new clients→ Learn more: https://www.guhroo.co/partners/2️⃣ *Hire Virtual Assistants* - Scale operations at 70% less cost→ https://www.outsourcedscale.com/3️⃣ *Marketing That Works* - Get the system we use→ https://underdogdigital.co/🔔 *SUBSCRIBE for weekly payroll growth strategies:*→ Hit the bell to never miss an episode💬 *CONNECT WITH MATT:*LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattvaadiFacebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/payrollinnovation👉 *TODAY'S GUEST:*→ Pete Tiliakos, HR Tech Analyst & Strategic Advisorhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/petetiliakos/→ Julie Fernandez, Global HR Advisory Leadhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/petetiliakos/#payroll #payrollservices #bureauowner What is a PEO and how does it workHow do small businesses manage payrollWhat is the best payroll service for small businessHow to choose HR softwareWhat is HCM softwareHow to grow a small businessHow to manage employees effectivelyWhat do small businesses struggle with mostHow to scale a businessIs AI replacing HR jobsHow is AI changing payrollWhat to look for in a payroll provider
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    59 min
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