In this episode, I endeavor to get Stephen Jones to answer three or four questions that I will also put to Ellen. These are things I feel will help summarize the story. THERE MAY be another season! Surely, there is more to tell.

1. How do you feel being at Summerlane/GV affected you as a person throughout life?

2. Was SL/GV a cult?

3. Has it affected your trust/faith?

4. Do you have any regrets?

CW: There will be some cursing!

CW: Sexual abuse, torture, rape, profanity

In this episode, I, along with Stephen Jones, reveal some of the incidents involving Ron Nowicki and CT "Skip" Weatherford. i refer to them as George's henchmen, but they were also adults with agency. They weren't controlled or brainwashed by George. But like him, they got away with atrocities and were never exposed.

Here are a few links:

Jack Tar Hotel

RAINN sexual abuse hotline

CW: This episode contains reference to sexual abuse, sex trafficking, sex with minors, and prostitution.

This man was a friend and funder of George's in the early days. He bought the two properties on which the "school" operated and stayed there for some time.

Later, he bought a 1500 acre property in Northern CA that had been a resort in the early 20th century. Harbin Hot Springs became a successful retreat center offering New Age events and workshops.

One former employee reports experiences of sexual abuse by Hartley (who became ISHVARA) and others.

WHAT's WRONG WITH HARBIN HOT SPRINGS?

After completing the episode, I learned that Robert Hartley is still alive at 92, still being celebrated as Ishvara, and still resides at Harbin Hot Springs!

HEDON SALON aka Kinky Salon