Thank you for being dedicated Overcoming Working Mom Burnout listeners. And thanks to all the guests who have made this podcast possible!

I am excited announce the Leading Real Change podcast to help passionate people leaders create thriving workplace cultures for all, where parents won't burn out!

Please listen in or find more at www.leading-real-change.com

This season featured 16 conversations with dads, which may seem odd for a podcast on overcoming working mom burnout. But I truly believe that if dads who have experienced full time caregiving are in leadership positions, they will help create the workplace systems change that will benefit moms and prevent burnout. I learned a lot about the barriers dads face and what we can do at home, at work and in society to support dads to be active parents. You can find my free guides to prevent burnout at www.DrJacquelineKerr.com/free-guides.

Michael Ray is a solo dad to daughter Charlie. He is an author, speaker, coach and activist with endless analogies to make sense of the challenges dads are facing in being active parents. He describes all the barriers that dads face in stepping into fatherhood and concludes that the only way to change that dynamic would be to incentivize dads to take leave. Michael’s approach to parenting is to ask questions so that his daughter can find her answers within herself and he shares the joy he has experienced in becoming a connected, present dad. You can find my free guides to prevent burnout at www.DrJacquelineKerr.com/free-guides.