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Over the Back Fence

Over the Back Fence

De : Diana and Nicola
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Di Edwards and Nicola Dale have been best friends for close to four decades & they actually share a ‘back fence’ in Sydney!
They share a love of life, a passion for people, and have discovered a simple conversation over the back fence, can change a life and give a sense of belonging .

“We’re not neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors or monks - we just love people - and know with age comes wisdom."

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  • Jane McCann: The Middle Age Goddess - Aging is an Upgrade, Nothing Changes Until You Do
    Apr 5 2026

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the delightful Middle Age Goddess, Jane McCann. Jane is a woman who’s turned midlife into a statement. She’s confident, stylish and completely unapologetic. Jane, known as the Middle Age Goddess, has built a loyal Instagram following by rejecting the idea that life slows down after a certain age and proving instead that it only gets better. From fashion, beauty, travel and reinvention, she represents a new kind of woman - one who isn’t interested in playing small, fading quietly or asking for permission. Whether she’s fronting curated experiences abroad or sharing her take on modern femininity, Jane embodies a life that is bold, visible and entirely self-defined. Midlife isn’t the end of the story for Jane, it’s the main event.

    In this episode we chat to Jane about what life was like before she became the Middle Age Goddess, and what inspired her to share this chapter of her life online and create such a wonderful community. We talk about why people resonate so much with her message, which is really because of Jane’s honesty and authenticity.

    Jane opens up about what it was like to be brought up by a mother who was suffering from bipolar and the way that affected her confidence and self-belief. Jane also shares about the painful loss of her sister a few years ago, and gives us some beautiful suggestions of the things that have helped her process her grief. We talk about the power of being in nature, going for a walk, calling a girlfriend and leaning into the simple things that make you feel good.

    We also have fun talking about some of the topics Jane covers on her Instagram - from her middle age rage to her outfits du jour, it’s so entertaining following her story.

    We absolutely loved chatting with Jane. It was so refreshing to talk about how life keeps getting better as we age and the ways we can keep reinventing ourselves and experiencing new things. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.

    This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com

    Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/

    Follow Jane aka The Middle Age Goddess on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/themiddleagedgoddess/

    Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts

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    49 min
  • Gai Waterhouse AO: Racing Royalty - From the Back Fence to the Winning Post
    Mar 29 2026

    This week Nicola and Di chat with racing royalty Gai Waterhouse. Known as the first lady of Australian Racing, Gai is the daughter of the legendary Tommy J. Smith and is one of Australia’s most recognised and successful horse trainers, including training horses for the late Queen Elizabeth and the Queen Mother. Gai also had an early life in the arts, appearing in TV shows like The Young Doctors and Doctor Who, before returning to the stables and forging an extraordinary career in racing.

    In this episode we talk to Gai about what it was like to train horses for Queen Elizabeth and the Queen Mother, what her favourite race is, what a day in the life of a trainer is like and whether or not she has any superstitions and rituals on race day - you’ll want to hear the one thing that Gai swears by!

    We also chat about Gai’s hilarious new fashion critic videos that she does with her daughter Kate on Instagram. It’s so much fun to get Gai’s take on the latest looks from the red carpet. Gai talks to us about the importance of making a good first impression, not dropping your standards and dressing the part.

    Gai also shares about her beautiful family life - the loving marriage she has with her husband of more than 45 years, Robbie, their 2 children Tom and Kate and the joy she feels as a grandma of 5.

    We absolutely loved chatting with Gai and we hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did!

    This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com

    Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/

    Follow Gai on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/gai_waterhouse/

    Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    29 min
  • Amanda Goff: Life After Samantha X – Finding Herself, Once Australia’s Highest-Paid Escort
    Mar 22 2026

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the fascinating and authentic Amanda Goff. From journalist to living a secret double life behind closed doors, Amanda was once Australia’s Highest-Paid Escort, Samantha X. In this explosive episode, she steps into the spotlight and owns every headline, every whisper, every scandal. This is a story of courage, controversy, vulnerability and the search for authenticity. Since revealing her identity, Amanda has become an author, speaker and an advocate sharing honest conversations about women, stigma, relationships and reinvention.

    In this episode, we get to know the woman behind Samantha X and what led to one of the most extraordinary career changes - from being an award-winning journalist to entering the sex work industry as a high-end escort at the age of 38. Amanda talks openly and honestly about what her time as an escort was like - how she got the gig, what her first client encounter was like, what she’s learnt about men and why she doesn’t regret any of it.

    She tells us about the agency that she then opened, hiring escorts over 40 and she busts some myths about the sex work industry and the type of people who do this work.

    Amanda also opens up about her struggles with mental health, how she was living with undiagnosed bipolar, and how much better she is now that she’s medicated and has more clarity.

    This was an absolutely fascinating conversation and we’re so grateful to Amanda for her honesty and giving us a peek inside an industry that so many of us are curious to know more about. We hope you enjoy this chat as much as we did.

    This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com

    Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/

    Follow Amanda on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/amandagoffofficial/?hl=en

    Buy Amanda’s book Misfit here - https://www.booktopia.com.au/misfit-amanda-goff/book/9781760688608.html?

    Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    48 min
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